View Poll Results: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

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    25 28.09%
  • Start a National Petition to repeal the act

    21 23.60%
  • Move out the Country

    3 3.37%
  • Celebrate

    5 5.62%
  • Go on with my life and comply with the new law

    19 21.35%
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    16 17.98%
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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    That doesn't work because they were taken out with superior firepower - for the most part specifically OUR MILITARY firepower. It wasn't revolutionaries and citizens with AK47s that make the difference. It was our military air superiority.

    The only revolution that could possibly succeed in this country would be if it had overwhelming military support in pro-active ways. Either way, private citizens' AR15s would add up to irrelevancy in that fight. And a military coop would not see the military handing out weapons to citizens, but taking them away. A military take-over rarely brings enhanced civil rights.
    If you make it a death sentence for a politician to engage in tyranny, you don't need to beat an army

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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Put a large steel ballbearing into a competition grade paint ball gun and you got some damage coming at close range.
    Crossbows are still exceptionally lethal. Quiet too.
    actually crossbows are rather noisy compared to suppressed weapons. bulky and hard to shoot from a concealed position and the ballistics are inferior to a 22 caliber rifle. a rather piss-poor offensive weapons against humans compared to stuff like PCP air rifles, small bore rifles etc

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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

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    If you make it a death sentence for a politician to engage in tyranny, you don't need to beat an army
    Are you talking about murdering people who do not agree with you?
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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Are you talking about murdering people who do not agree with you?
    No, I am talking about using firearms to overcome a tyrannical government that rapes and pillages its own citizenry. And I think you already know that so I wonder how you could possibly utter such a question honestly?

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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    No, I am talking about using firearms to overcome a tyrannical government that rapes and pillages its own citizenry. And I think you already know that so I wonder how you could possibly utter such a question honestly?
    So its gone from violent revolution for abolishing or violating the 2nd amendment to "rapes and pillages its own citizenry" that you'll stop with your 308?

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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    actually crossbows are rather noisy compared to suppressed weapons. bulky and hard to shoot from a concealed position and the ballistics are inferior to a 22 caliber rifle. a rather piss-poor offensive weapons against humans compared to stuff like PCP air rifles, small bore rifles etc
    How many supressed weapons do you have? License for those is significantly more difficult than for a full auto, though suppressors not the difficult to make permanently and definitely not for a single shot. The topic was non-firearms alternatives.
    Last edited by joko104; 01-17-12 at 06:36 PM.

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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    How many supressed weapons do you have? License for those is significantly more difficult than for a full auto, though suppressors not the difficult to make permanently and definitely not for a single shot. The topic was non-firearms alternatives.
    None silenced and no class three full autos

    , they aren't worth the money and since I have easy access to them I never felt the need to pay that sort of money-for example an UZI is worth about 500 dollars yet a full auto one sells for 10K. Having been counsel to a Title II manufacturer (browning HMG, vickers MGs etc) I know the law inside and out. and its not harder to buy suppressors here in ohio though some local LEO's won't sign off on them causing people to go the corporate route but in my county they are pretty easy to get and several local gunshops deal in them

    and if the SHTF they are rather easy to make

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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    So its gone from violent revolution for abolishing or violating the 2nd amendment to "rapes and pillages its own citizenry" that you'll stop with your 308?
    If a politician instigates a fascist attack on the american people it seems to me the most efficient thing to do is for 50 million armed patriots to go after him rather than do like Clint Eastwood did with the Panzer in Kelly's Heroes.

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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    If you make it a death sentence for a politician to engage in tyranny, you don't need to beat an army
    Unless I'm mistaken the crime would be treason rather than tyranny, because a politician would have to violate the constitution, betray their nation and usurp the rights of the people in order to enter into tyranny.

    Capital Punishment would definately be an effective deterrent, providing said politician wasn't suicidal or stark raving mad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Are you talking about murdering people who do not agree with you?
    History has shown us that the least tolerant of dissention are by far the communists.

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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    I'll play a hypothetical here to the hypothetical: p = politician C = Citizen(no, the capital lettering is not an accident)

    P - We need to abolish the second amendment.
    C - Why?
    P - For your safety.
    C - What about my safety from criminals
    P - Irrelevant
    P - Now that we've taken care of the gun problem, on to bigger things.......
    C - Such as?
    P - Well, we are going green now, your television is too big, your car uses too much fuel, and your carbon footprint is too large.
    C - But I like my TV, my car accomplishes my needs, and I don't agree with the movement.
    P - Irrelevant. Now about your diet, you eat too much. We are engaging in a system of accountability, you are to be provided one serving of meat a week, seven servings of greens, no trans fats, and we are banning fast food.
    C - That doesn't fit my diet.
    P - Too bad.
    C - Well, I'll vote you out.
    P - Well, see, we've been having some problems implementing things. Something about a general discontent, too much protest. We've decided to declare martial law and suspend elections indefinitely so that we can establish civil control
    C - You can't do that, the constitution says.....
    P - About that, the second was easy enough to get rid of, now we have the guns. In fact I think you are talking a little too much. What was your name again? Noted, we will have "constituent services" out to your house at the next earliest opportunity to tune you u......er......I mean address your concerns. Have a nice day. Speaking of nice, that lot of land you have is kind of large don't you think, I could probably fit about four "disadvantaged" families in this back area right here, we'll have the paperwork done on that. See you soon.

    The point of this is to provide a hypothetical that actually has happened many times in the 20th century alone. It all started with disarming the populace, and then the rest was pretty much set.
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