Join a violent revolution
Start a National Petition to repeal the act
Move out the Country
Go on with my life and comply with the new law
Other - state opinion below
"Take them with you in defense of my rights" may work for you. That tends to forget about the little children and old folks. In my opinion, if the USA became truly intolerably oppressive I would leave the USA bringing my family and those closest to me who cared to come along with me. We actually have specific plans to cover that prospect - though that is more in the event of a total social breakdown due to massive natural disaster or epidemic.
That we'd try to indefinitely hold off mobs or stand down tanks and helicopter gun ships? That's just nuts. In less than 30 miles directly out our backdoor we can be outside USA territorial waters and lost out in the deep blue. We have enough to last directly a year and essentially forever in a semi-primitive lifestyle. A lot of effort and thought has gone into this preparedness. Part of that preparedness includes firearms and munitions stock. But only a small part of it.
At what point would you revolt in a violent way over the 2nd amendment? When they outlaw 30 rd magazines? Outlaw semi-autos? Outlaw rifles? Outlaw handguns? That's already been done in some cities (challenged) and gun ownership rights continues to be whittled down including now in complex calculations of what constitutes a legal and illegal rifle, handgun, shotgun, ammunition and even holster. Guns are totally banned except to certain government people entirely from many locations - courthouses, school, bars, government buildings, banks...
At what point do you engage in armed revolution? When you are narrowed down to only allowed a black powder rifle and they come to take it? Srly, at what point in the dimmishing of 2nd Amendment rights do you start shooting?
Gun rights talk makes sense for self defense. Not for armed revolution.
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"He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
We are not the entire world, we are the United States of America. They have their problems I have mine. I am not willing to let my back yard get dirty by paying too much attention to theirs.I am equally being serious. All people live under some level of government oppression and denial of rights. The overwhelming vast majority of people in the world, including the "free world" are extremely restricted from gun ownership.
And under what criteria do you make this analysis? Considering plenty of snipers are now civilians who care deeply about this country. Many civilians are crack shots as well. You seem to live under the impression that only the military has sufficient tactical/weapons training and that people will just accept anything done by government. Neither is the case.Slogans don't make realities. Other than as a sniper assassin until caught/killed, a firearm has no relevancy in terms of a modern armed revolution in the USA. Nor would people support one. Its just not reality.There are plenty of people who will not surrender rights without a fight. All you are doing here is an appeal to ridicule.In terms of reality, it has little more meaning than if a bumpersticker read "You'll take my pocket knife when you pry it from my dead cold hand." This isn't a 3rd world country where guns rule government.Ask Ghadaffi about citizen revolt. He had plenty of soviet left overs.The only successful violent revolution in this country could be by the military and military takeovers - though my start of good motives - don't turn out good for the people in the long run.You really need to drop the personalizing. It's not about what you or I "want something to say" it's about the VERY plain language and relevant case law regarding not only second amendment but other BOR cases. I will not entertain this "what you want it to say" argument any further.Remember the OP - armed revolution if the government repealed the 2nd amendment or declared in nullified AS YOU SEE the 2nd amendment. It already did so, decades ago, in relation to all but the least potent of weaponry. The OP is NOT if the government abolished all rights and became a mass murderous oppressive dictatorial regime ala Joseph Stalin. The OP is what would you do if the government outlawed private gun ownership.
And with SCOTUS starting to hear arguments, the states are losing much these unconstitutional laws.I was speaking of the history of federal gun laws, not state laws. For most states they are far more restrictive than federal laws.
Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.
"Rome is the mob. Conjure magic for them and they’ll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they’ll roar. The beating heart of Rome is not the marble of the senate, it’s the sand of the coliseum. He’ll bring them death – and they will love him for it.” - Senator Gracchus (Gladiator)
It would be foolish of the U.S. to just ban guns on a whim. They would deserve any immense backlash that would undoubtedly result from it.
I think someone is not being very truthful with us.
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We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.