View Poll Results: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

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  • Join a violent revolution

    25 28.09%
  • Start a National Petition to repeal the act

    21 23.60%
  • Move out the Country

    3 3.37%
  • Celebrate

    5 5.62%
  • Go on with my life and comply with the new law

    19 21.35%
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    16 17.98%
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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Hide my gat.
    Make a potato gun.

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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Make a potato gun.
    Love it! You could put your eye out kid...lol

    Seriously, I bet you could knock someone on their ass with one.
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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Justice For All View Post
    It wouldn't be a easy thing to do, but this scenario is definately possible. I would ask those who are against guns or that would merely stand by and let this happen, what if you needed guns in the future? I just got done watching "Schindler's List" the other day and I noticed when the SS Nazis came to do, take, and murder whomever or whatever they pleased none of the jews had any power to do anything because they had no weapons. If they had weapons they'd atleast go down with a fighting chance. Now I do not believe anything like that is in sight now or any time soon, but in the future who's to say? Once a right is gone it's usually gone forever.
    I hear that a lot. What if every Jew fought back? Well, what happened when all the peoples of Poland found back? The German army ground them down. I suppose there is merit in trying to take someone with you, but if the Jews has fought back in mass the Germans would have mowed them down in mass. The only rational option a Jew had was to flee. There is no dishonor in fleeing and if you have children you have a duty to rather than stand your ego-ground.

    "Take them with you in defense of my rights" may work for you. That tends to forget about the little children and old folks. In my opinion, if the USA became truly intolerably oppressive I would leave the USA bringing my family and those closest to me who cared to come along with me. We actually have specific plans to cover that prospect - though that is more in the event of a total social breakdown due to massive natural disaster or epidemic.

    That we'd try to indefinitely hold off mobs or stand down tanks and helicopter gun ships? That's just nuts. In less than 30 miles directly out our backdoor we can be outside USA territorial waters and lost out in the deep blue. We have enough to last directly a year and essentially forever in a semi-primitive lifestyle. A lot of effort and thought has gone into this preparedness. Part of that preparedness includes firearms and munitions stock. But only a small part of it.

    At what point would you revolt in a violent way over the 2nd amendment? When they outlaw 30 rd magazines? Outlaw semi-autos? Outlaw rifles? Outlaw handguns? That's already been done in some cities (challenged) and gun ownership rights continues to be whittled down including now in complex calculations of what constitutes a legal and illegal rifle, handgun, shotgun, ammunition and even holster. Guns are totally banned except to certain government people entirely from many locations - courthouses, school, bars, government buildings, banks...

    At what point do you engage in armed revolution? When you are narrowed down to only allowed a black powder rifle and they come to take it? Srly, at what point in the dimmishing of 2nd Amendment rights do you start shooting?

    Gun rights talk makes sense for self defense. Not for armed revolution.
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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Justice For All View Post
    Personally if this happened I wouldn't consider it America anymore, so I'd probably go with violent revolution.
    American can't ban the 2nd Amendment, so you could you elaborate a bit more. I mean, come on!
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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Love it! You could put your eye out kid...lol

    Seriously, I bet you could knock someone on their ass with one.
    Put a large steel ballbearing into a competition grade paint ball gun and you got some damage coming at close range.
    Crossbows are still exceptionally lethal. Quiet too.

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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Put a large steel ballbearing into a competition grade paint ball gun and you got some damage coming at close range.
    Crossbows are still exceptionally lethal. Quiet too.
    Any Airgun or sling could be lethal. People would improvise to offset any 2nd banning.
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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Again, no article of the constitutions says you have a right to own apples and cars. It only describes the steps of the government to take those away if you already have them.
    Also again, if they must prove you can't have it then you have a right to it. For instance, I can buy a car anytime my means allow, the difference is in operation, if I want to use public roads I must prove through licensure that I am capable of using it. Usage and ownership are two different things. I don't have to license to buy a weapon because I have a right to arms, I don't have to have a license to own a vehicle, merely to utilize it in public, and I don't have to have permission to own other property. In order for the government to take it legally they must prove I didn't have a right to it or through due process I owe something of value to someone. This is to be understood that the property is my RIGHT. You are asking for a literal word for word reading of what is in plain sight when viewed through the entirety of the document.

    I am equally being serious. All people live under some level of government oppression and denial of rights. The overwhelming vast majority of people in the world, including the "free world" are extremely restricted from gun ownership.
    We are not the entire world, we are the United States of America. They have their problems I have mine. I am not willing to let my back yard get dirty by paying too much attention to theirs.
    Slogans don't make realities. Other than as a sniper assassin until caught/killed, a firearm has no relevancy in terms of a modern armed revolution in the USA. Nor would people support one. Its just not reality.
    And under what criteria do you make this analysis? Considering plenty of snipers are now civilians who care deeply about this country. Many civilians are crack shots as well. You seem to live under the impression that only the military has sufficient tactical/weapons training and that people will just accept anything done by government. Neither is the case.
    In terms of reality, it has little more meaning than if a bumpersticker read "You'll take my pocket knife when you pry it from my dead cold hand." This isn't a 3rd world country where guns rule government.
    There are plenty of people who will not surrender rights without a fight. All you are doing here is an appeal to ridicule.
    The only successful violent revolution in this country could be by the military and military takeovers - though my start of good motives - don't turn out good for the people in the long run.
    Ask Ghadaffi about citizen revolt. He had plenty of soviet left overs.
    Remember the OP - armed revolution if the government repealed the 2nd amendment or declared in nullified AS YOU SEE the 2nd amendment. It already did so, decades ago, in relation to all but the least potent of weaponry. The OP is NOT if the government abolished all rights and became a mass murderous oppressive dictatorial regime ala Joseph Stalin. The OP is what would you do if the government outlawed private gun ownership.
    You really need to drop the personalizing. It's not about what you or I "want something to say" it's about the VERY plain language and relevant case law regarding not only second amendment but other BOR cases. I will not entertain this "what you want it to say" argument any further.
    I was speaking of the history of federal gun laws, not state laws. For most states they are far more restrictive than federal laws.
    And with SCOTUS starting to hear arguments, the states are losing much these unconstitutional laws.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    American can't ban the 2nd Amendment, so you could you elaborate a bit more. I mean, come on!
    I think you know what I meant, but if we must analyse every word then I mean if the government created another ammendment that would ban guns or if the Supreme Court ruled it differently.

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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    It would be foolish of the U.S. to just ban guns on a whim. They would deserve any immense backlash that would undoubtedly result from it.

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    Re: If America banned the Second Ammendment tomorrow what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Don't misunderstand. I'm a big time gun owner. I can likely speculation the firepower of my weapons vastly exceeds whatever you have as I have licensed Class III and Destructive Device licenses and weapons.
    I wonder if anyone else participating in this thread actually believes that someone who is this spectacularly ignorant about firearms in general, could actually have a valid Class III license, and be in legal possession of any class III weapons.

    I think someone is not being very truthful with us.
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