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Same-Sex Marriage, How long till it's legal

Same-Sex Marriage, How long till it's legal

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Why do you guys always let yourself be baited into discussing bat**** insane views that no one actually holds?
 
I haven't been here very long but I can't believe Tigger is actually being serious. He has to be baiting. Dear God I hope he is! :shock:
 
Redress said:
Why do you guys always let yourself be baited into discussing bat**** insane views that no one actually holds?
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Oh Redress, you're just pissed because you know you'll never be as morally superior as Tigger is :lol:

Apparently we all pale in comparison because we don't endorse mass murder as a means to an end.
 
Objective-J said:
I compared nothing expect the fact that you want your morals/views/opinions FORCED on others
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I wasn't saying you did. I was simply suggesting that maybe you should be comparing our disparate views against the way this nation was at its founding. I think you'd find mine much more in line with the society of the time.

Objective-J said:
and the majority want you to have the FREEDOM and LIBERTY to practice your morals/views/opinions as well as yours
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Which makes them fools and imbeciles as much as anything else. To wantonly allow your enemy to practice his beliefs in your midst is lunacy.

Objective-J said:
one group wants freedom and liberty for all, you want everybody to do what YOU say LMAO
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Not quite. I have no great interest in Leading or being the One in Charge. That's never been my interest. I'd just like to live in a place and time where there is at least some semblence of morality, values, and decency to the society.

Objective-J said:
like I said its you that dont understand this country or the founding fathers :shrug:
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On that topic we will have to disagree, vehimently.

Objective-J said:
I hope you find a country where you can rule all doesnt seem like america is right for you
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I have no interest in ruling. I'd just like to be able to walk out my front door without vomiting from the disgusting society I am forced to witness on a daily basis.
 
I said 5-10 years. Things are moving pretty fast on this issue. The outcome is going to be in the hands of the court and I see the courts becoming more liberal and hastening the outcome.
 
Tigger said:
I wasn't saying you did. I was simply suggesting that maybe you should be comparing our disparate views against the way this nation was at its founding. I think you'd find mine much more in line with the society of the time.



Which makes them fools and imbeciles as much as anything else. To wantonly allow your enemy to practice his beliefs in your midst is lunacy.



Not quite. I have no great interest in Leading or being the One in Charge. That's never been my interest. I'd just like to live in a place and time where there is at least some semblence of morality, values, and decency to the society.



On that topic we will have to disagree, vehimently.



I have no interest in ruling. I'd just like to be able to walk out my front door without vomiting from the disgusting society I am forced to witness on a daily basis.
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nice long post and yet the majority still want freedom and liberty and you dont. LMAO nothing you said changes that :shrug: :D
 
jambalaya said:
I said 5-10 years. Things are moving pretty fast on this issue. The outcome is going to be in the hands of the court and I see the courts becoming more liberal and hastening the outcome.
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Oddly, the thing that will kill DOMA is actually a "conservative issue". DOMA usurps states rights.
 
Objective-J said:
nice long post and yet the majority still want freedom and liberty and you dont. LMAO nothing you said changes that :shrug: :D
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True. I'm not here to change anyone's mind, O-J. I never have been. No more than I'm here to have my own mind changed on anything. I'm just here to keep an eye on society and nothing more.
 
Redress said:
Oddly, the thing that will kill DOMA is actually a "conservative issue". DOMA usurps states rights.
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True. Now, of course once that gets determined at the SCOTUS, there is liable to be a massive population shift between states who wish to preserve Traditional Marriage and those that do not.
 
Tigger said:
True. I'm not here to change anyone's mind, O-J. I never have been. No more than I'm here to have my own mind changed on anything. I'm just here to keep an eye on society and nothing more.
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GLad we agree the majority are for freedom and liberty and you are not, thanks.
 
Tigger said:
True. Now, of course once that gets determined at the SCOTUS, there is liable to be a massive population shift between states who wish to preserve Traditional Marriage and those that do not.
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You really need to learn about the issue so you don't say wildly inaccurate things like this. With DOMA being repealed, that would mean that what state you live in is irrelevant. Any gay couple could go to New York, get married, and other states have to treat them as being married. What DOMA does is say that states and the federal government do not have to recognize those marriages.
 
My guess: 10 years +/-, so I voted 5-10 years.

My qualifications: Legal in the entire country... and probably federally, not state-by-state.
 
Redress said:
You really need to learn about the issue so you don't say wildly inaccurate things like this. With DOMA being repealed, that would mean that what state you live in is irrelevant. Any gay couple could go to New York, get married, and other states have to treat them as being married. What DOMA does is say that states and the federal government do not have to recognize those marriages.
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Okay. I misunderstood. I thought that it would then put the issue back in the hands of the States to determine whether they would allow it or not. I understand now; the overturning of DOMA would necessitate drastic measures being taken to correct the issue. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.
 
radcen said:
My guess: 10 years +/-, so I voted 5-10 years.

My qualifications: Legal in the entire country... and probably federally, not state-by-state.
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I agree its definitely going to be a federal thing and to deal with the fall of doma and/or the Supreme Court ruling on equality/discrimination.
 
It is legal in some states. Does this poll mean legal nationwide?
 
Objective-J said:
I agree its definitely going to be a federal thing and to deal with the fall of doma and/or the Supreme Court ruling on equality/discrimination.
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...and with the fall of DOMA, comes the fall of the United States as a nation with any value to its continued existance. That would simply be a final nail in the coffin for this once great nation.
 
Tigger said:
True. I'm not here to change anyone's mind, O-J. I never have been. No more than I'm here to have my own mind changed on anything. I'm just here to keep an eye on society and nothing more.
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You're here to make yourself feel good. You can't "keep an eye on society" on an internet forum, or anywhere for that matter.
 
Redress said:
You really need to learn about the issue so you don't say wildly inaccurate things like this. With DOMA being repealed, that would mean that what state you live in is irrelevant. Any gay couple could go to New York, get married, and other states have to treat them as being married. What DOMA does is say that states and the federal government do not have to recognize those marriages.
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And the day that happens I'll be popping champagne!
 
Tigger said:
...and with the fall of DOMA, comes the fall of the United States as a nation with any value to its continued existance. That would simply be a final nail in the coffin for this once great nation.
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Say that in a goofy southern accent and it would sound exactly like a confederate racist whining about the end of slavery circa 1861.
 
Tigger said:
Okay. I misunderstood. I thought that it would then put the issue back in the hands of the States to determine whether they would allow it or not. I understand now; the overturning of DOMA would necessitate drastic measures being taken to correct the issue. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.
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It would be in the hands of the state to determine who they would marry. However, the states would have to treat as married people married in other states just as most marriages are now. So a gay couple could get married in NY, go back to Bum**** Arkansas and still be married. States cannot nullify contracts from other states.
 
Your Star said:
And the day that happens I'll be popping champagne!
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I will host the party if you want. I think I know most of the gays in Atlanta anyway.
 
Tigger said:
...and with the fall of DOMA, comes the fall of the United States as a nation with any value to its continued existance. That would simply be a final nail in the coffin for this once great nation.
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Nope it will be another VICTORY for the US as another nail will be put into the coffin of bigotry, discrimination and unequal rights!!

WOOOOOOOWHOOOOOOO

this is what america does, it rights it wrongs, some way to late but we get to them eventually!!!

It will be a great historic day! :D
 
Your Star said:
And the day that happens I'll be popping champagne!
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I'll be popping something other than champagne that day.


misterman said:
Say that in a goofy southern accent and it would sound exactly like a confederate racist whining about the end of slavery circa 1861.
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Yep. Who knows, maybe this is the issue that sets the Third American Revolution into motion. Each side has won one of the first two, and there's going to have to be a deciding game one of these days.


Redress said:
It would be in the hands of the state to determine who they would marry. However, the states would have to treat as married people married in other states just as most marriages are now. So a gay couple could get married in NY, go back to Bum**** Arkansas and still be married. States cannot nullify contracts from other states.
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At least until their neighbors dragged them out of their home and lynched them.
 
Tigger said:
At least until their neighbors dragged them out of their home and lynched them.
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And then spend the rest of their lives in jail. The fact that most people in this country according to the most recvent polling don't actually have a problem with gay people suggests this is unlikely, but hey, it's why we have jails and in some states the death penalty.
 
Tigger said:
I'll be popping something other than champagne that day.
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:lol: Unintentional joke.

Yep. Who knows, maybe this is the issue that sets the Third American Revolution into motion. Each side has won one of the first two, and there's going to have to be a deciding game one of these days.
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Keep kidding yourself.

America is about freedom. I know you hate that, but that's the way it is.
 
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