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Why do you guys always let yourself be baited into discussing bat**** insane views that no one actually holds?
Why do you guys always let yourself be baited into discussing bat**** insane views that no one actually holds?
I compared nothing expect the fact that you want your morals/views/opinions FORCED on others
and the majority want you to have the FREEDOM and LIBERTY to practice your morals/views/opinions as well as yours
one group wants freedom and liberty for all, you want everybody to do what YOU say LMAO
like I said its you that dont understand this country or the founding fathers :shrug:
I hope you find a country where you can rule all doesnt seem like america is right for you
I wasn't saying you did. I was simply suggesting that maybe you should be comparing our disparate views against the way this nation was at its founding. I think you'd find mine much more in line with the society of the time.
Which makes them fools and imbeciles as much as anything else. To wantonly allow your enemy to practice his beliefs in your midst is lunacy.
Not quite. I have no great interest in Leading or being the One in Charge. That's never been my interest. I'd just like to live in a place and time where there is at least some semblence of morality, values, and decency to the society.
On that topic we will have to disagree, vehimently.
I have no interest in ruling. I'd just like to be able to walk out my front door without vomiting from the disgusting society I am forced to witness on a daily basis.
I said 5-10 years. Things are moving pretty fast on this issue. The outcome is going to be in the hands of the court and I see the courts becoming more liberal and hastening the outcome.
nice long post and yet the majority still want freedom and liberty and you dont. LMAO nothing you said changes that :shrug:
Oddly, the thing that will kill DOMA is actually a "conservative issue". DOMA usurps states rights.
True. I'm not here to change anyone's mind, O-J. I never have been. No more than I'm here to have my own mind changed on anything. I'm just here to keep an eye on society and nothing more.
True. Now, of course once that gets determined at the SCOTUS, there is liable to be a massive population shift between states who wish to preserve Traditional Marriage and those that do not.
You really need to learn about the issue so you don't say wildly inaccurate things like this. With DOMA being repealed, that would mean that what state you live in is irrelevant. Any gay couple could go to New York, get married, and other states have to treat them as being married. What DOMA does is say that states and the federal government do not have to recognize those marriages.
My guess: 10 years +/-, so I voted 5-10 years.
My qualifications: Legal in the entire country... and probably federally, not state-by-state.
I agree its definitely going to be a federal thing and to deal with the fall of doma and/or the Supreme Court ruling on equality/discrimination.
True. I'm not here to change anyone's mind, O-J. I never have been. No more than I'm here to have my own mind changed on anything. I'm just here to keep an eye on society and nothing more.
You really need to learn about the issue so you don't say wildly inaccurate things like this. With DOMA being repealed, that would mean that what state you live in is irrelevant. Any gay couple could go to New York, get married, and other states have to treat them as being married. What DOMA does is say that states and the federal government do not have to recognize those marriages.
...and with the fall of DOMA, comes the fall of the United States as a nation with any value to its continued existance. That would simply be a final nail in the coffin for this once great nation.
Okay. I misunderstood. I thought that it would then put the issue back in the hands of the States to determine whether they would allow it or not. I understand now; the overturning of DOMA would necessitate drastic measures being taken to correct the issue. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.
And the day that happens I'll be popping champagne!
...and with the fall of DOMA, comes the fall of the United States as a nation with any value to its continued existance. That would simply be a final nail in the coffin for this once great nation.
And the day that happens I'll be popping champagne!
Say that in a goofy southern accent and it would sound exactly like a confederate racist whining about the end of slavery circa 1861.
It would be in the hands of the state to determine who they would marry. However, the states would have to treat as married people married in other states just as most marriages are now. So a gay couple could get married in NY, go back to Bum**** Arkansas and still be married. States cannot nullify contracts from other states.
At least until their neighbors dragged them out of their home and lynched them.
I'll be popping something other than champagne that day.
Yep. Who knows, maybe this is the issue that sets the Third American Revolution into motion. Each side has won one of the first two, and there's going to have to be a deciding game one of these days.