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    Re: Will you vote for Paul or Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I would welcome the GOP nominating Ron Paul and would love to see it happen.

    I also would like it to hit 85 degrees here in Michigan today.

    The second has a better chance of happening than the first. And the results would be much more pleasant.
    If they did it would mean a change in the thoughts of people, especially if he gets the youth vote. Are you sure you want to wish for that?

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    Re: Will you vote for Paul or Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    If they did it would mean a change in the thoughts of people, especially if he gets the youth vote. Are you sure you want to wish for that?
    I find this to be such an odd claim. The "youth". What "youth" are you people talking about? The only "youth" that like Paul are kids like Ikari(who in all fairness is around my age) and Empirica. If that is the "youth" that Paul is supposed to get, I feel safe in saying that Obama has very little to be worried about. Rabidly anti-government Libertarians and their zealously homophobic home schooled brethren aren't the norm amongst our youth.
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    Re: Will you vote for Paul or Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Obama. While I don't see any vast improvement from Obama's first term, he hasn't made things worse than they were towards the end of Bush's second term. I just don't see how anything Ron Paul proposes makes things better either here in America domestically or by our role and obligation on the international stage. America doesn't exist in a vaccum, and we need to be proactive with other countries whether it's simple negotiations/alliances or more aggressive tactics in dealing with our enemies and enemies of our allies.
    I can understand some limited interest to shore up your interests and support your allies, but doesn't being proactive just cause as many problems, through the inevitable and continuous unintended consequences it throws up, as being totally non-intervention? It is not as if being proactive simply solves the foreign problems, it is basically out of the frying pan and into the fire. Doesn't the last decade show that being proactive is often not a good idea?
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    Re: Will you vote for Paul or Obama?

    Depends on the presidential debates. As of right now, Ron Paul.

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    Re: Will you vote for Paul or Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I find this to be such an odd claim. The "youth". What "youth" are you people talking about? The only "youth" that like Paul are kids like Ikari(who in all fairness is around my age) and Empirica. If that is the "youth" that Paul is supposed to get, I feel safe in saying that Obama has very little to be worried about. Rabidly anti-government Libertarians and their zealously homophobic home schooled brethren aren't the norm amongst our youth.
    His biggest voting block is college kids. I'm not pretending there is enough college kids that would vote for Paul out there to win the election, or even the primary, but if Haymarkets desire is to come true it would show a bigger tide than anyone is aware of in that age group. This would be exactly what people like Haymarket don't want as it would be a sign the future of democrats is not the youth vote.
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    Re: Will you vote for Paul or Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Symphony View Post
    If Ron Paul became the GOP nom. Who would you rather vote for?
    If Paul were the GOP nominee, I would vote for Obama. If Paul were a third party nominee, I would vote for Paul. The Republican Party is sold out to big Corporate. Big Corporate does not represent America.

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    Re: Will you vote for Paul or Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    His biggest voting block is college kids.
    Yes. Right wing leaning college kids voting in Republican primaries. Hardly a majority in either the Republican party or the US as a whole. So you might as well trumpet another useless statistics.
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    Re: Will you vote for Paul or Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yes. Right wing leaning college kids voting in Republican primaries. Hardly a majority in either the Republican party or the US as a whole. So you might as well trumpet another useless statistics.
    Ahem...

    The group that is experiencing the most growth with college kids is libertarians. History HAS shown this kind of growth pattern in the past with other groups and you can guess where it ended some years later.
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    Re: Will you vote for Paul or Obama?

    My answer is obvious.




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    Re: Will you vote for Paul or Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Ahem...

    The group that is experiencing the most growth with college kids is libertarians. History HAS shown this kind of growth pattern in the past with other groups and you can guess where it ended some years later.
    Another useless and unverified statistic. When campus groups are almost evenly divided between Democrats/Republicans or Liberal/Conservatives, claiming that Libertarians are growing quickly is about as meaningful as saying that you're also a growing vocal group on the internet. You're going to have to do a lot better than baseless claims and useless statistics to show me that Libertarians are anything other than a vocal (and annoying) minority pretending they're the new voice of who knows what.
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