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    Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    Western Oil Firms Remain as US Exits Iraq | Truthout

    ""Only a nave child could believe the Americans came here for something besides our oil," Ahmed Ali, an unemployed engineer, told Al Jazeera. "Nor can we believe their being here has anything to do with helping the Iraqi people."

    Basim al-Khalili, a restaurant owner in Baghdad's Karada district, agrees.

    "If Iraq had no oil, would America have sacrificed thousands of its soldiers and hundreds of billions of dollars to come here?"

    Oil analyst Juhasz also agrees.

    "The US and other western oil companies and their governments had been lobbying for passage of a new national law in Iraq, the Iraq Oil Law, which would move Iraq from a nationalised to a largely privatised oil market using Production Sharing Agreements (PSAs), a type of contract model used in just approximately 12 per cent of the world's oil market."

    She explained that this agreement has been summarily rejected by most countries, including all of Iraq's neighbours, "because it provides far more benefits to the foreign corporation than to the domestic government".

    But it has not been an easy road for the western oil companies in Iraq."



    This is an Al Jazeera (Arab/MidEast) view of the Iraqi situation. Is it accurate? Is it lies? Is it propaganda? Why is the popularized USA view of spreading democracy so widely believed in the USA? Do OIL corporations have enough power in our USA gov't to initiate asset wars? Did you vote for that?
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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    #3 comes the closest to being true, but doesn't quite get there. The War in Iraq was about one thing and one thing only..... The attempted plot by Saddam Hussein and several other groups in the Middle East to assassinate the FIRST President Bush. It was about Junior protecting Daddy, and that's pretty much it.

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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    #3 comes the closest to being true, but doesn't quite get there. The War in Iraq was about one thing and one thing only..... The attempted plot by Saddam Hussein and several other groups in the Middle East to assassinate the FIRST President Bush. It was about Junior protecting Daddy, and that's pretty much it.
    Wowser, I'm lovin' that answer. So GWShiiteForBrains wasted a Trillion dollars of our hard earned shekels to smite that no-good, evil, scumsuckin' Saddam and not to make his war makin' goombahs billions of dollars. Is ol' GW from an Oil State? He wouldn't personally profit from oily deals, would he? I mean he was workin' in the Oil Patch for years. He never learned anything and would have no personal interest or profit motived then? Who'd a thunk it? Just a high-minded idealist who couldn't generate profits for his company in the Texas Oil Patch. That doesn't mean ol' GW didn't profit. There's always salary and fringe, eh?

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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    Dave, I'm not suggesting that there were not additional benefits to carrying out the operation; but it is my belief, from what I have read over time, that GW was looking for any excuse possible (9/11) to attack Iraq because Hussein and several other entities inside Iraq had been involved in the planning of an assassination attempt against GW's father. If 9/11 hadn't happened, or if all the oil in Iraq had dried up overnight, GW would STILL have found a reason to invade Iraq and ensure Hussein's death. That is what I believe on this topic.

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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Dave, I'm not suggesting that there were not additional benefits to carrying out the operation; but it is my belief, from what I have read over time, that GW was looking for any excuse possible (9/11) to attack Iraq because Hussein and several other entities inside Iraq had been involved in the planning of an assassination attempt against GW's father. If 9/11 hadn't happened, or if all the oil in Iraq had dried up overnight, GW would STILL have found a reason to invade Iraq and ensure Hussein's death. That is what I believe on this topic.
    I don't agree. I think it is possible that GWShiiteForBrains thought his Dad made a mistake by not going all the way into Iraq in Gulf War One. He was going to show the whole world how much smarter than his daddy he was by going in there and kickin' butt in a couple of weeks and with his ace advisor Darth Cheney, who surely wouldn't profit from an oil war. By the way, wars run on energy. So energy Corporations are the first guaranteed profits from a war. Weapons and ammunition next. All followed by the "spoils of war" and that would be OIL in Iraq. GW had been Oil Patch executive, so he's supposed to know sumpin' 'bout sumpin', and Darth was Haliburton leader and owner of lots of Haliburton stock. Now the fact that both are positioned to profit handsomely from a war with Iraq is coincidental and is really a result of "bon chance" and Divine Providence, just like the old British Aristrocracy. That's why the rich got money is because God gave them the good genes to know what to do with it, you know, like startin' wars and enhancing poverty and destroying infrastructure. They just lots smarter than us ol' peons. Don't ya' think?

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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Western Oil Firms Remain as US Exits Iraq | Truthout

    ""Only a nave child could believe the Americans came here for something besides our oil," Ahmed Ali, an unemployed engineer, told Al Jazeera. "Nor can we believe their being here has anything to do with helping the Iraqi people."

    Basim al-Khalili, a restaurant owner in Baghdad's Karada district, agrees.

    "If Iraq had no oil, would America have sacrificed thousands of its soldiers and hundreds of billions of dollars to come here?"

    Oil analyst Juhasz also agrees.

    "The US and other western oil companies and their governments had been lobbying for passage of a new national law in Iraq, the Iraq Oil Law, which would move Iraq from a nationalised to a largely privatised oil market using Production Sharing Agreements (PSAs), a type of contract model used in just approximately 12 per cent of the world's oil market."

    She explained that this agreement has been summarily rejected by most countries, including all of Iraq's neighbours, "because it provides far more benefits to the foreign corporation than to the domestic government".

    But it has not been an easy road for the western oil companies in Iraq."



    This is an Al Jazeera (Arab/MidEast) view of the Iraqi situation. Is it accurate? Is it lies? Is it propaganda? Why is the popularized USA view of spreading democracy so widely believed in the USA? Do OIL corporations have enough power in our USA gov't to initiate asset wars? Did you vote for that?
    I bet the Iraq war is for oil people are the same idiots who have the nerve to make fun of birther-tards and trufer-tards. Its like the pot calling the kettle black or the guy who believes Lee Harvey Oswald didn't kill JFK mocking the guy who believes in big foot.
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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Western Oil Firms Remain as US Exits Iraq | Truthout

    ""Only a nave child could believe the Americans came here for something besides our oil," Ahmed Ali, an unemployed engineer, told Al Jazeera. "Nor can we believe their being here has anything to do with helping the Iraqi people."

    Basim al-Khalili, a restaurant owner in Baghdad's Karada district, agrees.

    "If Iraq had no oil, would America have sacrificed thousands of its soldiers and hundreds of billions of dollars to come here?"

    Oil analyst Juhasz also agrees.

    "The US and other western oil companies and their governments had been lobbying for passage of a new national law in Iraq, the Iraq Oil Law, which would move Iraq from a nationalised to a largely privatised oil market using Production Sharing Agreements (PSAs), a type of contract model used in just approximately 12 per cent of the world's oil market."

    She explained that this agreement has been summarily rejected by most countries, including all of Iraq's neighbours, "because it provides far more benefits to the foreign corporation than to the domestic government".

    But it has not been an easy road for the western oil companies in Iraq."



    This is an Al Jazeera (Arab/MidEast) view of the Iraqi situation. Is it accurate? Is it lies? Is it propaganda? Why is the popularized USA view of spreading democracy so widely believed in the USA? Do OIL corporations have enough power in our USA gov't to initiate asset wars? Did you vote for that?


    Without the US protection of big oil in Iraq, I wonder how long it will be before we start seeing foreign contractors being beheaded again and oil facilities being blown up?
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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Without the US protection of big oil in Iraq, I wonder how long it will be before we start seeing foreign contractors being beheaded again and oil facilities being blown up?
    The question you have never asked yourself is, without big oil in Iraq what is the chance of sucess (military, diplomatic, etc) in Iraq? The answer is 0.

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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    The question you have never asked yourself is, without big oil in Iraq what is the chance of sucess (military, diplomatic, etc) in Iraq? The answer is 0.
    That doesn't fly, as Iraq did better than most Middle Eastern countries though the 35 years of their nationalized oil policy.
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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That doesn't fly, as Iraq did better than most Middle Eastern countries though the 35 years of their nationalized oil policy.
    Well considering we took out the nation that nationalized and formed that oil policy it kinda does... Simple fact, it is and was imperative to our mission in Iraq that its oil industry functions well. Not doing so would have only prolonged the conflict and costed more Iraqi and American soldiers lives. Sorry your partisan eyes cannot see the obvious truth.

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