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  • The USA OIL corporatocracy was acquiring assets

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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    But Saddam too, right?



    The US (the West) sold him anthrax vaccinations for cattle, else millions of cows would die. He weaponized it (the cows died).
    He did not use anthrax at Halabja. It was some kind of mustard type, and we sold him the precursors. I believe it was Saint Ronnie or GHWBush that sold it.

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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Ah, so this is one of those "Bush is a war criminal" bitch threads then. Carry on.

    Gee, who'd a thunk it? He does come off as a war criminal. Not to worry, he'll stay out of Switzerland, and probably Spain, and perhaps a few other foreign countries that would like to prosecute.

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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    He did not use anthrax at Halabja. It was some kind of mustard type, and we sold him the precursors. I believe it was Saint Ronnie or GHWBush that sold it.
    He did not only use chemicals against Kurds in one place or time. The mustard was also weaponized post-import. Your original terminology was ignorant or dishonest, thus the backpedal.
    Last edited by ecofarm; 01-14-12 at 04:58 PM.

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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    He did not only use chemicals against Kurds in one place or time. The mustard was also weaponized post-import. Your original terminology was ignorant or dishonest, thus the backpedal.
    No back pedal.. GWBush is responsible for the deaths of 100,000+ Iraqis. Bush1 or Saint Ronnie sold Saddam the chemicals that Saddam used to kill thousands. I have never seen any info that suggested Saddam used anthrax against Iraqis. This is the same Saddam that was never a threat to the USA. I never said Saddam was a good guy. The implication is that GWBush and Saddam are about the same! That is backed by the number of dead.

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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    More specifically, I think Iraq was about settling a vendetta for the Bush family, but it did come attached to highly lucrative oil and infrastructure contracts whose acquired wealth has not trickled down to the American economy.

    I think invading Iraq really called into question everything about 9/11 and the invasion of Afghanistan and made the world's faith in our nation seriously decline.

    I can't look at American foreign policy anymore without drawing the conclusion that our government is becoming increasingly clandestine.

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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    No back pedal.. GWBush is responsible for the deaths of 100,000+ Iraqis. Bush1 or Saint Ronnie sold Saddam the chemicals that Saddam used to kill thousands. I have never seen any info that suggested Saddam used anthrax against Iraqis. This is the same Saddam that was never a threat to the USA. I never said Saddam was a good guy. The implication is that GWBush and Saddam are about the same! That is backed by the number of dead.
    Are we going to count the approximate one and a half million or so killed or wounded in the Iran-Iraq War? Poison gas was used there too.

    The war, of course, started by Saddam.
    Wiki:
    The Iran–Iraq War was extremely costly in lives and material, one of the deadliest wars since World War II[citation needed]. Both countries were devastated by the effect of the war. It cost Iran an estimated 1 million casualties, killed or wounded, and Iranians continue to suffer and die as a consequence of Iraq's use of chemical weapons[citation needed]. Iraqi casualties are estimated at 250,000–500,000 killed or wounded. Thousands of civilians died on both sides in air raids and ballistic missile attacks.[155]
    Self-righteousness really gets to me.

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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    Are we going to count the approximate one and a half million or so killed or wounded in the Iran-Iraq War? Poison gas was used there too.

    The war, of course, started by Saddam. [...]
    Debatable... from your source:

    Initially, the Iraqi government welcomed the Islamic revolution in Iran in 197879, having had a common enemy with them in the deposed Shah.[30] The call, first made by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini in June 1979 for Iraqi Shias to overthrow the Ba'ath regime was therefore received with considerable shock in Baghdad.[30] On 17 July 1979, despite Khomeini's call, the Iraqi President Saddam Hussein gave a speech praising the Iranian revolution, and called for Iraqi-Iranian friendship based upon non-interference in each other's internal affairs.[30] When Khomeini ignored Hussein's overture, and continued with his call for a Shia revolution in Iraq, the Iraqi regime was seriously alarmed.[31] [...]

    The repeated calls for the overthrow of the Ba'ath regime and the support extended to Iraqi Shia groups by the new regime in Iran led Hussein to increasingly perceive the Iranian regime as a mortal threat that if ignored, might one day overthrow him.[32]
    And who was supporting Saddam during that poison gas use you spoke of?



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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    #3 comes the closest to being true, but doesn't quite get there. The War in Iraq was about one thing and one thing only..... The attempted plot by Saddam Hussein and several other groups in the Middle East to assassinate the FIRST President Bush. It was about Junior protecting Daddy, and that's pretty much it.
    Yes Oil had NOTHING to do with it? Are you serious? I hope you don't vote. People like you might be the very reason why an electorial college is in place.
    Last edited by sookster; 01-14-12 at 08:23 PM.

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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Debatable... from your source:

    Silly, very silly and petulant.

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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    Some Iraqis deserve Saddam. **** em.

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