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  • The USA OIL corporatocracy was acquiring assets

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  • Saddam was a big threat and had to be taken out

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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    80% about oil and profits
    20% about military bases


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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    Sadam was viewed as a thread and that's why the Iraq war was started. He was a crazy dictator in a hostile and fragile part of the world.
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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    Oil played a role, but the war was primarily about nation building. Here it is, straight from the neocons' mouths.

    At present the United States faces no global rival. America’s grand strategy should aim to preserve and extend this advantageous position as far into the future as possible.

    Under the section of Army: To ‘Complete’ Europe And Defend the Persian Gulf , you will find explicit statements such as, In short, the value of land power continues to appeal to a global superpower, whose security interests rest upon maintaining and expanding a world-wide system of alliances as well as on the ability to win wars. While maintaining its combat role, the U.S. Army has acquired new missions in the past decade – most immediately, missions associated with completing the task of creating a Europe “whole and free” and defending American interests in the Persian Gulf and Middle East.

    http://www.newamericancentury.org/Re...asDefenses.pdf
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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    Geopolitics, petrodollars, spreading democracy, removing dictators, WMD's, 9/11 preemptive strikes, padding defense contracts, avenging daddy. I'm sure it was all factored in the decision.
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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    Well considering we took out the nation that nationalized and formed that oil policy it kinda does... Simple fact, it is and was imperative to our mission in Iraq that its oil industry functions well. Not doing so would have only prolonged the conflict and costed more Iraqi and American soldiers lives. Sorry your partisan eyes cannot see the obvious truth.
    As made clear in the recommendations in Cheney's Task Force Report, before the 9/11 attack, together with the complete lack of evidence of WMD, the primary purpose of the our war on one of the most defenseless countries in the planet was getting big oil back into Iraq for the first time since Iraq nationalized their oil 35 years before.
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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Sadam was viewed as a thread and that's why the Iraq war was started. He was a crazy dictator in a hostile and fragile part of the world.
    Saddam was viewed as a threat to the region back when the US was his ally and Reagan removed Iraq from the Terrorist Nations listing. When we invaded after the Persian Gulf war and ten years of sanctions, Saddam was just a fat old man with a shotgun.
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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    Quote Originally Posted by Antiderivative View Post
    Oil played a role, but the war was primarily about nation building. Here it is, straight from the neocons' mouths.

    At present the United States faces no global rival. America’s grand strategy should aim to preserve and extend this advantageous position as far into the future as possible.

    Under the section of Army: To ‘Complete’ Europe And Defend the Persian Gulf , you will find explicit statements such as, In short, the value of land power continues to appeal to a global superpower, whose security interests rest upon maintaining and expanding a world-wide system of alliances as well as on the ability to win wars. While maintaining its combat role, the U.S. Army has acquired new missions in the past decade – most immediately, missions associated with completing the task of creating a Europe “whole and free” and defending American interests in the Persian Gulf and Middle East.

    http://www.newamericancentury.org/Re...asDefenses.pdf
    "defending American interests in the Persian Gulf and Middle East."

    That's what it all comes back to, our dependence on others property.

    "Official: US oil at the heart of Iraq crisis


    President Bush's Cabinet agreed in April 2001 that "Iraq remains a destabilizing influence to the flow of oil to international markets from the Middle East" and because this is an unacceptable risk to the US "military intervention" is necessary.

    Vice-president Dick Cheney, who chairs the White House Energy Policy Development Group, commissioned a report on "energy security" from the Baker Institute for Public Policy, a think-tank set up by James Baker, the former US secretary of state under George Bush Snr.

    The report, Strategic Energy Policy Challenges For The 21st Century, concludes: "The United States remains a prisoner of its energy dilemma. Iraq remains a de-stabilising influence to the flow of oil to international markets from the Middle East. Saddam Hussein has also demonstrated a willingness to threaten to use the oil weapon and to use his own export programme to manipulate oil markets. Therefore the US should conduct an immediate policy review toward Iraq including military, energy, economic and political/ diplomatic assessments.

    "The United States should then develop an integrated strategy with key allies in Europe and Asia, and with key countries in the Middle East, to restate goals with respect to Iraqi policy and to restore a cohesive coalition of key allies."

    Baker who delivered the recommendations to Cheney, the former chief executive of Texas oil firm Halliburton, was advised by Kenneth Lay, the disgraced former chief executive of Enron, the US energy giant which went bankrupt after carrying out massive accountancy fraud.

    The other advisers to Baker were: Luis Giusti, a Shell non- executive director; John Manzoni, regional president of BP and David O'Reilly, chief executive of ChevronTexaco. Another name linked to the document is Sheikh Saud Al Nasser Al Sabah, the former Kuwaiti oil minister and a fellow of the Baker Institute.

    Official: US Oil at the Heart of Iraq Crisis
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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Sadam was viewed as a thread and that's why the Iraq war was started. He was a crazy dictator in a hostile and fragile part of the world.
    The crazies would be the ones who killed over 100,000 Iraqis. That'd be mostly women and children just because of population demographics. That would identify the real threat or crazy leader.

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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    The US didn't get any oil or even any contracts regarding oil. Why do people still claim it was about oil.


    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    The crazies would be the ones who killed over 100,000 Iraqis. That'd be mostly women and children just because of population demographics. That would identify the real threat or crazy leader.
    You mean Saddam against the Kurds with chemical weapons?
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    Re: Iraq and OIL. What was the war about?

    "Spreading Democracy" ???
    How silly !
    And this making war , IMO, is the totally wrong way to go about this..
    Likely that Bush and his supporters were stupid enough to think that Saddam Hussein was a threat.
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    For instance, I admit that I have little trust in these big oil companies ...
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