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    Re: US willing to share Aegis missile tech with Russia - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dpetty View Post
    Look what happened to the vast majority of Russia's military when their government collapsed! It all went to the highest bidder! Thats what could happen again!
    Right! That's why we need to get as many of those nukes out of there as we can asap.

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    Re: US willing to share Aegis missile tech with Russia - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Right! That's why we need to get as many of those nukes out of there as we can asap.
    The nukes arent the issue of debate here pal, its the giving away of technology.

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    Re: US willing to share Aegis missile tech with Russia - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    So lay out what you're worried about? You think we're going to have a nuclear war with Russia? That's just silly.
    Why is it silly? Do you think back in the 1940's people thought that our alli would threaten us with nuclear strike after WWII was over? Would they have given them nuclear technology if they did? Its niave to think that just because things arent openly hostile right now, that they couldnt become that way. I hope you never get a position of authority over anyone dependant on you...

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    Re: US willing to share Aegis missile tech with Russia - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    So lay out what you're worried about? You think we're going to have a nuclear war with Russia? That's just silly.
    No. It's about giving away things we don't need to give away with no reason to think we'll get anything meaningful in return.
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    Re: US willing to share Aegis missile tech with Russia - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    No. It's about giving away things we don't need to give away with no reason to think we'll get anything meaningful in return.
    I assume this is BO's way to hit the reset button....the reset button the commies keep throwing at Hillary. This is another effort by BO to weaken the US to make our enemies think more highly of him. He is all but running for the Secretary of the UN once he is done transforming the US into a banana republic.
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    Re: US willing to share Aegis missile tech with Russia - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    No. It's about giving away things we don't need to give away with no reason to think we'll get anything meaningful in return.
    But you're just making up the part about not getting anything in return... Apparently the folks who actually do this professionally think we're getting more in return than we're giving. You on the other hand, have no idea whatsoever what we're getting in return.. So why would we assume you're right and they're wrong?

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    Re: US willing to share Aegis missile tech with Russia - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dpetty View Post
    Why is it silly? Do you think back in the 1940's people thought that our alli would threaten us with nuclear strike after WWII was over?
    Yes... You're not exactly a history buff eh? Many people say the main reason we dropped atomic bombs on Japan was to warn off the USSR. Some of our generals wanted to continue WWII by attacking the USSR.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dpetty View Post
    Would they have given them nuclear technology if they did? Its niave to think that just because things arent openly hostile right now, that they couldnt become that way. I hope you never get a position of authority over anyone dependant on you...
    So even in your anti-Russian mentality, you would rather they have NUKES than DEFENSIVE missiles? Uh....

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    Re: US willing to share Aegis missile tech with Russia - good idea?

    I think that we should seek better relations with Russia, but at this point it would be unwise to share military tech with them.
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    Re: US willing to share Aegis missile tech with Russia - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I think that we should seek better relations with Russia, but at this point it would be unwise to share military tech with them.
    Well, that's not really the question though. I mean, all things being equal, should we give Russia military tech? No of course not. We shouldn't give anybody military tech for no reason. The question is whether we are safer with Russia having less nukes, but also this mediocre missile defense system from the 90s? Or are we safer with them having more nukes?

    IMO reducing the number of Russian nukes has to be our absolute top priority. Given the questionable security they seem to have for them, and given that only one stolen nuke getting into Al Qaeda's hands means bye-bye Manhattan, I don't even see this as a close call at all.

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    Re: US willing to share Aegis missile tech with Russia - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    But you're just making up the part about not getting anything in return...
    No, I'm not. Last year (well, 2010), we scrubbed our missile defense commitments in eastern Europe and got diddly squat in return (the aforementioned treaty where we gave up our strategic primacy and Russia gave up . . . nothing). There is no reason to think the same wouldn't happen again, as the same people are still in charge in Russia.


    Apparently the folks who actually do this professionally think we're getting more in return than we're giving.
    If so, they're as idiotic as the people who keep giving North Korea whatever it wants every time it launches a couple of missiles over Japan. What was Einstein's definition of "insanity"?


    You on the other hand, have no idea whatsoever what we're getting in return.. So why would we assume you're right and they're wrong?
    See above.
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