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    Re: US willing to share Aegis missile tech with Russia - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Sure, yes. If sharing some anti-missile defense tech makes Russia more willing to give up more of it's nukes, that definitely makes us safer overall.
    Yeah, that worked really well the last time. We got a treaty where we gave up a bunch of nukes and they gave up nothing.
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    Re: US willing to share Aegis missile tech with Russia - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Yeah, that worked really well the last time. We got a treaty where we gave up a bunch of nukes and they gave up nothing.
    Huh? They have reduced their nuclear arsenal from 55,000 to 2,000....

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    Re: US willing to share Aegis missile tech with Russia - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Sure, yes. If sharing some anti-missile defense tech makes Russia more willing to give up more of it's nukes, that definitely makes us safer overall.
    SOME of its nukes??? At the height of the cold war russia had thousands of nuclear warheads. Even as late at 2007 they had over 3000! They could give up all but 100 of them and still be able to destroy every human on the planet! The idea that we would sacrifice cutting edge missile tech in exchange for the possibility that they might think about getting rid of a few nukes shows me just how kiss a$$ this presidency is.

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    Re: US willing to share Aegis missile tech with Russia - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Well, to be frank we have shared a lot of technology with our allies, including nations like Korea, Japan, and the Brits.
    That is called a precedent, and it doesnt make it a good idea.

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    Re: US willing to share Aegis missile tech with Russia - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dpetty View Post
    SOME of its nukes??? At the height of the cold war russia had thousands of nuclear warheads. Even as late at 2007 they had over 3000! They could give up all but 100 of them and still be able to destroy every human on the planet! The idea that we would sacrifice cutting edge missile tech in exchange for the possibility that they might think about getting rid of a few nukes shows me just how kiss a$$ this presidency is.
    They have cut their arsenal from about 55,000 to about 2,000 due to various treaties with the US over the years. That's huge. Every nuke that is out there means more chance it will slip into the hands of terrorists or who knows what. Aegis is just a missile DEFENSE system, it's not an offensive weapon. What is your concern exactly? You worry that we will one day launch ICBMs at them and they'll have an easier time blocking it? Why would we do that?

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    Re: US willing to share Aegis missile tech with Russia - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Well, to be frank we have shared a lot of technology with our allies, including nations like Korea, Japan, and the Brits.
    And one of these days those countries might be our enemies and or someone in those countries might leak that tech to other countries.
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    Re: US willing to share Aegis missile tech with Russia - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Huh? They have reduced their nuclear arsenal from 55,000 to 2,000....
    Not in the last treaty, they didn't. They took our carrot, ate it, and belched.
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    Re: US willing to share Aegis missile tech with Russia - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    They have cut their arsenal from about 55,000 to about 2,000 due to various treaties with the US over the years. That's huge. Every nuke that is out there means more chance it will slip into the hands of terrorists or who knows what. Aegis is just a missile DEFENSE system, it's not an offensive weapon. What is your concern exactly? You worry that we will one day launch ICBMs at them and they'll have an easier time blocking it? Why would we do that?
    It doesnt matter if or why! Its a defense system! What drives further inovation in weapons technology?? Its the ongoing ability for someone to develop a weapon that can get past existing defense systems!
    If we give someone our defense tech, first of all that gives them a way to design around it, and second it levels the playing field. It cancels itself out. In the name of national security, neither country will willingly allow themselves to be at the mercy of another country. Because of this, their first priority is going to be to develop a weapon that our current defense systems cannot stop. By giving them that tech they know its capabilities and exactly what it will take to get around it.

    And as far as it being a strictly defensive weapon, its still a missile! cant you imagine someone simply putting an existing nuclear warhead on that DEFENSIVE weapon?

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    Re: US willing to share Aegis missile tech with Russia - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    And one of these days those countries might be our enemies and or someone in those countries might leak that tech to other countries.
    Look what happened to the vast majority of Russia's military when their government collapsed! It all went to the highest bidder! Thats what could happen again!

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    Re: US willing to share Aegis missile tech with Russia - good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dpetty View Post
    It doesnt matter if or why! Its a defense system! What drives further inovation in weapons technology?? Its the ongoing ability for someone to develop a weapon that can get past existing defense systems!
    If we give someone our defense tech, first of all that gives them a way to design around it, and second it levels the playing field. It cancels itself out. In the name of national security, neither country will willingly allow themselves to be at the mercy of another country. Because of this, their first priority is going to be to develop a weapon that our current defense systems cannot stop. By giving them that tech they know its capabilities and exactly what it will take to get around it.

    And as far as it being a strictly defensive weapon, its still a missile! cant you imagine someone simply putting an existing nuclear warhead on that DEFENSIVE weapon?
    So lay out what you're worried about? You think we're going to have a nuclear war with Russia? That's just silly.

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