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  • It shows how much more clever and intelligent I am over everybody else.

    0 0%
  • Yes, it's a legitimate form of expression to convey how I feel.

    3 11.54%
  • Don't really care either way.

    3 11.54%
  • No, no matter how you spin it, it's still childish and immature.

    7 26.92%
  • Says more about the person doing it, and NOT in a positive way.

    13 50.00%
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    Is political name calling unwarranted or legitimate expression?

    Is political name calling unwarranted or legitimate expression?

    I'm not talking between two individuals having a discussion/argument and one calls the other a name. I mean directed towards political people on the other side in general. For example...

    - A liberal might call Fox News "Faux News". Or Republicans "Repukes". Or calling Rick Santorum "Frothy" (look in the Urban Dictionary under "santorum", it's not complimentary, but I've seen it a lot on Facebook), or Bush "Shrub".

    - A conservative might call OWS people "Occutards" or Democrats "Democrites". Or even more subtle as making a big deal over President Obama's middle name.

    I will admit that I called Tea Party people "Tea Baggers" for awhile. While it did express in a way my feeling of the movement, I stopped because I didn't feel right doing it. Is name calling a legitimate form of expression to properly convey how one feels, or does it really do nothing more than to cheapen the whole process and drain what little respectability there is from our system?

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    Re: Is political name calling unwarranted or legitimate expression?

    ARGH! You didn't make the votes public!


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    Re: Is political name calling unwarranted or legitimate expression?

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    Re: Is political name calling unwarranted or legitimate expression?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Is political name calling unwarranted or legitimate expression?

    I'm not talking between two individuals having a discussion/argument and one calls the other a name. I mean directed towards political people on the other side in general. For example...

    - A liberal might call Fox News "Faux News". Or Republicans "Repukes". Or calling Rick Santorum "Frothy" (look in the Urban Dictionary under "santorum", it's not complimentary, but I've seen it a lot on Facebook), or Bush "Shrub".

    - A conservative might call OWS people "Occutards" or Democrats "Democrites". Or even more subtle as making a big deal over President Obama's middle name.

    I will admit that I called Tea Party people "Tea Baggers" for awhile. While it did express in a way my feeling of the movement, I stopped because I didn't feel right doing it. Is name calling a legitimate form of expression to properly convey how one feels, or does it really do nothing more than to cheapen the whole process and drain what little respectability there is from our system?
    Truthfully, I think it undercuts the name caller's argument, no matter how legitimate their complaint or point may be. I can't take them seriously and move on.

    *I will admit, in full disclosure, I may have used a name or two in the past. I rethought it and think I've consistently avoided the using them for some time now.
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    Re: Is political name calling unwarranted or legitimate expression?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    ARGH! You didn't make the votes public!
    I thought about it, but I always suspect that people are less prone to be honest when they're public.

    I voted for #4, btw.

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    Re: Is political name calling unwarranted or legitimate expression?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Truthfully, I think it undercuts the name caller's argument, no matter how legitimate their complaint or point may be. I can't take them seriously and move on.
    I tend to agree with this. In fact, the more extreme and constant the name calling, the more I view them as a close-minded person that has not an ounce of objectivity, so I can't even trust them to have honestly considered anything beyond their previously determined bias.

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    Re: Is political name calling unwarranted or legitimate expression?

    I said "don't care either way" because it depends on the situation. As instigation or a distraction from argument, it's weak and childish. As a response to an insult, no big deal. Among friends, no big deal. I tend not to engage people who use "libtard" and similar things.

    In general, I think the words just illustrate what kind of communication a person is looking for. A person who uses them when debating isn't interested in fruitful discussion.

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    Re: Is political name calling unwarranted or legitimate expression?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Is political name calling unwarranted or legitimate expression?

    I'm not talking between two individuals having a discussion/argument and one calls the other a name. I mean directed towards political people on the other side in general. For example...

    - A liberal might call Fox News "Faux News". Or Republicans "Repukes". Or calling Rick Santorum "Frothy" (look in the Urban Dictionary under "santorum", it's not complimentary, but I've seen it a lot on Facebook), or Bush "Shrub".

    - A conservative might call OWS people "Occutards" or Democrats "Democrites". Or even more subtle as making a big deal over President Obama's middle name.

    I will admit that I called Tea Party people "Tea Baggers" for awhile. While it did express in a way my feeling of the movement, I stopped because I didn't feel right doing it. Is name calling a legitimate form of expression to properly convey how one feels, or does it really do nothing more than to cheapen the whole process and drain what little respectability there is from our system?
    There are much easier ways to create a compelling stand on an argument than to undermine the opponent. It is one of my pet peeves. That being said I could not help but to Pronounce Boehner's last name as "Boner" a time or two.

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    Re: Is political name calling unwarranted or legitimate expression?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Is political name calling unwarranted or legitimate expression?

    I'm not talking between two individuals having a discussion/argument and one calls the other a name. I mean directed towards political people on the other side in general. For example...

    - A liberal might call Fox News "Faux News". Or Republicans "Repukes". Or calling Rick Santorum "Frothy" (look in the Urban Dictionary under "santorum", it's not complimentary, but I've seen it a lot on Facebook), or Bush "Shrub".

    - A conservative might call OWS people "Occutards" or Democrats "Democrites". Or even more subtle as making a big deal over President Obama's middle name.

    I will admit that I called Tea Party people "Tea Baggers" for awhile. While it did express in a way my feeling of the movement, I stopped because I didn't feel right doing it. Is name calling a legitimate form of expression to properly convey how one feels, or does it really do nothing more than to cheapen the whole process and drain what little respectability there is from our system?
    well typically name calling just makes you look silly and puts your huge bias on display for everyone to see and you probably wont be taken serious nor should you be

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    I think your questions/examples are very different.

    Calling republicans retardpublicans or democrates demohypocrates or liberals libnuts or conservatives conservatards etc etc etc to me is very different than calling Fox News : Faux News or Bush : Shrub etc

    the first group gets you wrote off as a bias nonobjective troll or extremist

    the second group to me are just people displaying their dislike for ONE person or Organization(company not group of public people)

    The people that do what I described in the first group are dishonest, bias, extremest and never to be taken seriously and are intellectually void/shallow.

    Now on occasion in a rant you may use a derogatory term but if its clear you are talking about only the extremists or a select few then so be it, but most of the time (not all) when you write off whole groups you are an idiot and part of the problem.
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    Re: Is political name calling unwarranted or legitimate expression?

    Partisian namecalling is constitutionally protected, but legitimate? Not to me. It's just a way for clueless individuals to talk smack to their "enemies" without having to go through the bother of understanding and *gasp!* actually discussing issues.

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