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Thread: Could we replace the entire Congress with DP members and get better results?

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    Re: Could we replace the entire Congress with DP members and get better results?

    If you replace the partisan hacks in congress with partisan hacks from here...then that would be a totally wasted and futile effort.

    And BTW...I know Im not the only one keeping track...but it might deserve noting that after the LATEST spending extension...nothing. All's quiet. It will likely remain quiet until the deadline hits...again...at which point they will just HAVE to approve another tax extension and spending increase. Way to 'represent', congress!

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    Re: Could we replace the entire Congress with DP members and get better results?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Well, yeah, if you count the unpaid ones. But that's not the point. And the committee staff, which are...committee staff.
    Yeah, 100 counting committee staff and unpaid staff. I was talking about how many people a senator needs to manage, not the cost when I brought it up. I'll maybe drop it to 80 though. 100 is probably on the high side. There are a lot of unpaid folks. Or at least, who aren't paid by the senate. Maybe 12-20 unpaid college interns, maybe 5 or so unpaid law clerks, maybe 5 that are there on fellowships where the fellowship gives them a stipend, some that are on assignment from the DOJ or the AG's office in the home state or something.

    Committee staff are really just the senator's staff. He picks them and they report up to him and only him through the chain of command. They are really just legislative staff that are focused on the issues related to the committee the senator sits on. They maybe tend to be a bit more high end and tend to have law degrees, since those are usually the most influential legislative staff positions except the legislative director or chief of staff, but other than that they're just like the other legislative staff.

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    Which state was this? Likely a large one. 35 is just the average - a state like California or NY will have more, of course.
    A medium sized state.

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    Re: Could we replace the entire Congress with DP members and get better results?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Kickbacks from lobbyists are illegal, and therefore rare.

    There are perks to being a member of Congress, but those aren't one of them.

    The idea that Congress can get away with doing nothing, when it must approve funding for the government every year, is a little far-fetched.

    Overall, though, you're right that the more polarized Congress becomes, the more it cedes power to the President, who can act without the need for compromise.
    1) Smoking marijuana is illegal too. That doesn't mean smoking marijuana is rare.

    2) What I call "kickbacks" Congressmen call "campaign contributions." It is innately corrupt because they listen more to whoever gives them money than to who actually votes for them.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Could we replace the entire Congress with DP members and get better results?

    Of course not. We'd be trolling any ****** who disagreed with us.

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    Re: Could we replace the entire Congress with DP members and get better results?

    I don't doubt my fellow DP'ers capablities but the problems are structural not individual specific.
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    Re: Could we replace the entire Congress with DP members and get better results?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    That's why you can also vote in primaries. You should watch the news.
    Doesn't really address the real issues that I addressed though... and that is fine. I have accepted that the system is ****ed up and not much will be done about it. All good bro. 49ers will win.

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    Re: Could we replace the entire Congress with DP members and get better results?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    1) Smoking marijuana is illegal too. That doesn't mean smoking marijuana is rare.
    Reporters aren't digging through every single thing the average pot smoker does though.

    2) What I call "kickbacks" Congressmen call "campaign contributions." It is innately corrupt because they listen more to whoever gives them money than to who actually votes for them.
    You can't just redefine words.
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    Re: Could we replace the entire Congress with DP members and get better results?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Doesn't really address the real issues that I addressed though.
    But it does.
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    Re: Could we replace the entire Congress with DP members and get better results?

    The whole system is a mess.

    Everything needs to be redone.

    Constitution rewritten - complete overhaul of the powers - government officials only serve a max of 8 to 12 years - make laws easier to change/amend -

    Take the money out of the picture in regards to politics (i.e. no one padding each other's pockets, i.e. kickbacks, special interest groups etc.)

    Give power to the people - i.e. involve them in more votes

    Give more State power and less federal power

    Allow people to move to the states in which they feel they best fit in as far as each states laws are concerned

    Equal Opportunity is a must (not equal outcome), e.g. equal starting inheritances, equal education opportunity and so on (a son or daughter should not pay for their mother of father's sins, so to speak)

    Pay military personnel on a risk basis - i.e. the higher the risk the higher the pay - military personnel should be paid very, very well (this makes it so that there is motivation to be in the military and no need for drafts)

    Equal opportunity eliminates the problem with the poor fighting for our country while the inherited rich sit comfortably at home

    Equal healthcare for all - all healthcare facilities and their workers get paid based on their performance, i.e. customer satisfaction and results -

    Encourage competition in all aspects

    Keep adequate social safety nets that allow people to live, but that strongly encourages them to move up the ladder - increase minimum wage to a living wage

    disallow outsourcing, make companies stay in the U.S.

    Reduce military occupancy overseas - encourage technology and intelligence over quantity

    Disallow big oil to bully the market and strongly encourage alternative fuel sources

    require college education (at least an associates degree)

    require political science courses

    develop a test that must be taken in order to vote

    allow internet voting

    reduce pork-barreling

    .... I could go on all day

    -please forgive any errors in detail or wording - I think most people will understand what I am getting at - will drop some more ideas as I remember and think of them
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    Re: Could we replace the entire Congress with DP members and get better results?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    .... I could go on all day
    Really?


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