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    Re: Could we replace the entire Congress with DP members and get better results?

    Not a lot of faith in democracy around here...

    It's a lot harder than people assume to be a senator especially or representative. They need to be able to do all kinds of things that not too many people do well. For example, a senator has to manage a team of about 100 people. That alone filters out the majority of potential candidates. Managing people well, especially that big of an organization, is a fairly rare ability. A lot more people think they would be good at it than actually are good at it. Then they need to be able to speak competently about virtually every subject that might come up off the cuff on camera or in front of sometimes crowds of thousands of people. Most people can't do that. Then you need to be able to negotiate with people you loathe without ever losing your cool. Also quite rare. You need to have a great memory for names and facts. You need to have at least a basic proficiency in all areas of policy- even those you find boring like pesticide policy and zoning issues in your district and whatnot. And so on. Just the baseline of skills required to do the job eliminate most people.

    But, even putting that aside, we have a whole process of elections. The people in office are the ones that we thought would be the best at it out of an entire country of 311 million people. To believe that they really aren't turning out any better than random people off a discussion board seems awfully pessimistic. IMO the real issue is that the way the media and everybody talks about politics it's easy to get the impression that they're all idiots and the job is super easy and whatnot. That isn't the reality though. In reality most of them, even those I completely disagree with, are still exceptionally bright, informed, people with a rare combination of skills.

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    Re: Could we replace the entire Congress with DP members and get better results?

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    Re: Could we replace the entire Congress with DP members and get better results?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Who would Tigger replace? I don't think there are any facists in Congress.
    I think his speeches would be the most entertaining.

    Anyway, just elect me benevolent dictator and all your problems will be solved.

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    Re: Could we replace the entire Congress with DP members and get better results?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    It's a lot harder than people assume to be a senator especially or representative. They need to be able to do all kinds of things that not too many people do well. For example, a senator has to manage a team of about 100 people.
    Run that past me again. A Senator will have a staff of 100? What for? Assuming a (very low) $30,000 average salary, that's 10,000 people, costing $300,000,000 just to service members of the Senate??? Are they paid for from the public purse, in which case... wtf? Or from the Senators themselves which either means you have to be very wealthy (plutocracy, or what?) to keep a staff costing $3,000,000 a year, or from campaign contributions, in which case half of that 100 staff are going to be spending their working lives fund-raising... in order that they can be paid... to fund raise!

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    Re: Could we replace the entire Congress with DP members and get better results?

    Now, let me see... it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator.

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    Re: Could we replace the entire Congress with DP members and get better results?

    I can't remember who said it or the exact quote but "We could replace congress with names picked randomly from the phone book and get better results".

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    Re: Could we replace the entire Congress with DP members and get better results?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    It would never work. The creme de la creme here at DP are not Americans.
    "What we need is a better people, and a better congress".
    I'll not tire of this.
    The complexity of the make up of the DP crowd makes the usual Dem/GOP labeling impossible... And I even believe we have a "better people" right here at DP...
    Something to do with education and youth, as opposed to our Congress...(older, less educated , IMO)

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    Re: Could we replace the entire Congress with DP members and get better results?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    He could be in a supporting role.....maybe put in a dress and say he is Michele Bachman's mistress.....
    Sick and nasty.....lol.....
    Many here think I am a Liberal....but I am not totally convinced that liberalism is the better way to go, that it produces better results..

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    Re: Could we replace the entire Congress with DP members and get better results?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You could take homeless people off the street and get better results than what our Congress has been getting for the last 30 years.
    Remove the huge amount of money from the process; make the Congressmen walk among the elite AND the masses...this may produce some improvements.

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    Re: Could we replace the entire Congress with DP members and get better results?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Because it means they can still get the perks of being a member of Congress - namely kickbacks from lobbyists - without having to be responsible for what the government does since the President effectively is the government.
    Kickbacks from lobbyists are illegal, and therefore rare.

    There are perks to being a member of Congress, but those aren't one of them.

    The idea that Congress can get away with doing nothing, when it must approve funding for the government every year, is a little far-fetched.

    Overall, though, you're right that the more polarized Congress becomes, the more it cedes power to the President, who can act without the need for compromise.
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