View Poll Results: How should Marijuana be dealt with?

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  • Stricter federal laws must be made, and more money put to enforcing them

    13 10.83%
  • Give individual states the right to decide how to go about it

    39 32.50%
  • Legalize it through a federal law

    52 43.33%
  • Give states the right to decide about it as long as they abide by certain Federal guidelines

    16 13.33%
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    Re: Marijuna

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    It's not. If prostitution were legal, there would be less STDs.
    And what basis do you have for this?

    If most roaches don't crawl onto the floor from the shadows when the light is out, what happens when you turn the light off? More roaches emerge.

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    Re: Marijuna

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    And what basis do you have for this?

    If most roaches don't crawl onto the floor from the shadows when the light is out, what happens when you turn the light off? More roaches emerge.
    The basis for that statement is record of fact from areas where prostitution is legal. STD rates amongst prostitutes and their customers (and therefore anybody else that customer does the hanky panky with) are significantly lower when prostitution is legal than when it is not.
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    Re: Marijuna

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    And what basis do you have for this?

    If most roaches don't crawl onto the floor from the shadows when the light is out, what happens when you turn the light off? More roaches emerge.
    Roaches in a marijuana thread?

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    Re: Marijuna

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    The basis for that statement is record of fact from areas where prostitution is legal. STD rates amongst prostitutes and their customers (and therefore anybody else that customer does the hanky panky with) are significantly lower when prostitution is legal than when it is not.
    How exactly is that?

    Question: If murder was made legal, would that as well drop the rate in murder?

    The logic is that making it legal decreases the occurence, so wouldn't that work for theives and murderers and other currently illegal things as well?

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    Re: Marijuna

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    How exactly is that?

    Question: If murder was made legal, would that as well drop the rate in murder?

    The logic is that making it legal decreases the occurence, so wouldn't that work for theives and murderers and other currently illegal things as well?
    Your analogy fails. Marijuana and prostitution are victimless crimes unlike theft and murder.
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    Re: Marijuna

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    How exactly is that?

    Question: If murder was made legal, would that as well drop the rate in murder?

    The logic is that making it legal decreases the occurence, so wouldn't that work for theives and murderers and other currently illegal things as well?
    You're smarter than this.....

    In areas where prostitution has been legalized protections have been put into place. Those protections include health screenings and mandatory, regularly scheduled STD testing and treatment. If a prostitute tests positive for an STD she is either treated or dismissed from the industry. Men (or women) seeking to purchase services from a prostitute are required as a term of the agreement to use condoms during any sexual activity so as to reduce the risk of transmission from the customer to the prostitute, or from a prostitute who might have contracted something since the last testing.

    The use of protection and the frequency of STD testing severely diminishes the contraction and spread of STDs, just as it does in un-regulated activities between cautious, responsible sexual partners.
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    Re: Marijuna

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Your analogy fails. Marijuana and prostitution are victimless crimes unlike theft and murder.
    You misread my question.

    Victimless or not, the logic is that making something legal decreases the occurence.

    That said, what actual response do you have to my earlier post?

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    Re: Marijuna

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    You misread my question.

    Victimless or not, the logic is that making something legal decreases the occurence.

    That said, what actual response do you have to my earlier post?
    We have models where marijuana and prostitution have been decriminalized to point to.
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    Re: Marijuna

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    How exactly is that?

    Question: If murder was made legal, would that as well drop the rate in murder?

    The logic is that making it legal decreases the occurence, so wouldn't that work for theives and murderers and other currently illegal things as well?
    This is a flawed comparison. There are enormous differences between soliciting a prostitute, and committing first degree murder. There's really no equivalency, there. the reason why STD infections are less common in areas where prostitution is legalized is because they regulate it, they require that brothels meet certain health codes, among other things, they require the use of condoms, as well as STD testing. This is also more attractive to the customers, most of whom would rather go to a safe establishment where they know they won't catch anything, even if they have to pay a little more. It's a win/win. Better for the girls, better for society.

    Back to the point; there simply aren't any cogent arguments for the prohibition of marijuana. It should be legalized, immediately.
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    Re: Marijuna

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    You're smarter than this.....

    In areas where prostitution has been legalized protections have been put into place. Those protections include health screenings and mandatory, regularly scheduled STD testing and treatment. If a prostitute tests positive for an STD she is either treated or dismissed from the industry. Men (or women) seeking to purchase services from a prostitute are required as a term of the agreement to use condoms during any sexual activity so as to reduce the risk of transmission from the customer to the prostitute, or from a prostitute who might have contracted something since the last testing.

    The use of protection and the frequency of STD testing severely diminishes the contraction and spread of STDs, just as it does in un-regulated activities between cautious, responsible sexual partners.
    Actually, I am far smarter than people think. Merely, I like to check peoples' thought processes and exactly what makes them think so, thus why I have to drag the ideas out of them. It doesn't help that most of these completely dead-horse issues disinterest and annoy me.

    I can see the part on mandatory screenings and STD scheduling/treatment. I had not known of that earlier. Very interesting indeed. I had not known that the prostitute could be either treated OR removed from it altogether. How exactly do those regulating this, ah, commodity, keep tabs on these people? ID tags? Interesting as well, in that I didn't know those regulating the industry requires the prostitute/suitor to wear protection.

    With that said, I not only understand your position but agree with it.

    On a slightly different issue, I wonder how good this is for society in terms of $$$. Sure, less costs for law enforcement, but what could be out there, regarding this industry, that costs a lot of money?

    Though, STD portion of my argument discarded, I still maintain that there will be more people attracted to being prostitutes/seeking prostitutes with all of these protective benefits in place. So, regardless of disease, the roaches will still crawl onto the floor when the light, [the law], is turned off.

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