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  • Tradition

    23 29.87%
  • Hierarchy

    1 1.30%
  • Elitism

    10 12.99%
  • Populism

    2 2.60%
  • Individualism

    15 19.48%
  • Other

    26 33.77%
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Thread: When You Hear "Conservative", which Idea First Comes to Mind?

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    Re: When You Hear "Conservative", which Idea First Comes to Mind?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    ....the "old scrap of paper", our Constitution.
    ...and that's all you need to know about liberals.

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    Re: When You Hear "Conservative", which Idea First Comes to Mind?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    ...and that's all you need to know about liberals.
    You know though, Lincoln referred to the Founding Fathers as "those Old Men." However, when you read Abraham Lincoln's statement it is filled with terms of endearment. When you just read the poster's thoughts it merely inspires the gag reflex.
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    Re: When You Hear "Conservative", which Idea First Comes to Mind?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    MOre complete crap. the middle class get more entitlements because the middle class has the most votes and politicians buy their votes with the money of the rich by giving the middle class more handouts
    $15,800 is too much for half the country to live on? How much do you think it takes to provide food, and housing, and health insurance and transportation for a job, and provide for a family? The average taxpayer making a million dollars and up gets ten times that amount just in tax cuts.

    You think the middle class standards are too high since they have gotten poorer at the same time the income for the wealthy has quadrupled?

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    Re: When You Hear "Conservative", which Idea First Comes to Mind?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Not likely to buy into someone's bull****; puts thought into what they accept and what they reject.
    Yes because that's so uniquely conservative.

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    Re: When You Hear "Conservative", which Idea First Comes to Mind?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The last 30 years of supply side economics and deregulation has been a class war that is killing the middle class and threatening senior's programs. When we fight back you say it is us waging the class war. Is the middle class no longer allowed to stand up for itself???
    We have NOT had supply side economics these last 30 years. We have more regulations now than at any other time in our history. We could use a little deregulation.

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    Re: When You Hear "Conservative", which Idea First Comes to Mind?

    My first association with the term in general is "tradition" and "hierarchy", next comes "elitism". Also, the unfortunate association with German revisionists, because most real German conservatives are revisionists. There are not many of them left, but most are rather weird and grumpy fellows.

    When I hear/read the term in English, I think of American Republicans, and it's arguable how much this party, its members and supporters are actually "conservative" when it comes to their philosophy.
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    Re: When You Hear "Conservative", which Idea First Comes to Mind?

    Quote Originally Posted by gmeyers1944 View Post
    We have NOT had supply side economics these last 30 years. We have more regulations now than at any other time in our history. We could use a little deregulation.

    Where is the regulation we had for 50 years that separated investment banks from commercial banks so that we didn't have banks too big to fail???

    Where is the regulation that prevented commodity speculators from running up prices to increase their personal wealth???

    Where are the regulations that prevented unlimited donations to political candidates???


    Supply side economic and deregulation for the last 30 years is what brought us to where we are today. Who would be stupid enough to allow it to be continued?
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    Re: When You Hear "Conservative", which Idea First Comes to Mind?

    Deregulation and Corporations
    "Rome is the mob. Conjure magic for them and they’ll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they’ll roar. The beating heart of Rome is not the marble of the senate, it’s the sand of the coliseum. He’ll bring them death – and they will love him for it.” - Senator Gracchus (Gladiator)

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    Re: When You Hear "Conservative", which Idea First Comes to Mind?

    Quote Originally Posted by rosie1 View Post
    I might have respected the tea party, if they had a hissy fit during Bush's big spending spree.
    It took the bigger spending spree of Barack Obama: A President Bush on steroids. We can take only so much spending before we have no choice but to act.
    Last edited by Sunbelt; 01-20-12 at 04:38 PM.

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