View Poll Results: Your Grade for Obama

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  • A -- Absolutely Wonderful

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  • B -- Good

    14 15.56%
  • C -- Marginal

    32 35.56%
  • D -- Terrible

    29 32.22%
  • F -- The Greatest Traitor in U.S. History

    12 13.33%
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    Re: Your Grade for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    Well Congress does have the lowest approval ratings in history... plus there's the fact they have turned into a bunch of hyper-partisans bent on not agreeing.
    Well, if there ever was another run against Congress now would be the time. I don't disagree with their strategy. If the tables were turned and a (R) were running they might do the same thing.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Your Grade for Obama

    D, maybe D-. Between his apology tour and his handling of the budget, I have absolutely no faith in his ability to do the right thing for American interests.

    For contrast purposes, I'd give GWB a D+, Clinton a B+, and GHWB a B.

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    Re: Your Grade for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    killed Bin Laden.
    ended Iraq War.
    passed meaningful healthcare reform.
    passed meaningful financial reform.
    put tobacco under FDA regulation.
    signed good new nuclear weapons treaty with Russia.
    passed new fuel-efficiency standards for cars AND trucks (first time).
    stock market back above 12,000 points.
    unemployment heading down.

    Obama's record isn't perfect, but considering the mess he inherited, he's doing ok.

    That's a very nice list... here's t he other side of the coin.


    Obama Broken Promises
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    Increase capital gains and dividend taxes for higher-income taxpayers
    Expand the child and dependent care credit
    Create a foreclosure prevention fund for homeowners
    End income tax for seniors making less than 50,000
    End no-big contracts above 25,000
    Repeal Bush tax cuts for high incomes
    Phase out exemptions and deductions for higher earners
    Sign the Employee Free Choice Act, making it easier for workers to unionize
    Forbid companies in bankruptcy from giving executive bonuses
    Allow imported prescription drugs
    Allow workers to claim more in unpaid wages and benefits in bankruptcy court
    Appoint federal-level coordinator to oversee all federal autism efforts
    Double Federal funding for cancer research
    Direct the Sec. of HHS to conduct a comprehensive study of federal cancer initiatives
    Provide the CDC 50 million in new funding to determine the most effective approaches for cancer patient care
    Fund the IDEA act
    Creation National Commission on People with Disabilities, Employment and Social Security
    Change federal rules so small businesses owned by people with disabilities can get preferential treatment for federal contracts
    Reduce the threshold for the Family and Medical Leave Act from companies with 50 employees to companies with 25 employees
    Provide a 1.5 billion fund to help states launch programs for paid family and medical leave
    Require employers to provide seven paid sick days per year
    Expand the FMLA to include leave for domestic violence or sexual assault
    Form international group to help Iraq refugees
    Work with Russia to move nuclear weapons off hair-trigger alert
    Close Guantanamo Bay Detention Center
    Secure ratification of the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty
    Reinstate special envoy for the Americas
    Double the Peace Corps
    Centralized ethics and lobbying information for voters
    Create a public "Contracts and Influence" database
    Allow 5 days of public comment before signing bills
    Tougher rules against revolving door for lobbyists and former officials
    Double funding for after school programs
    Expand the Employment Non-Discrimination Act to include sexual orientation and gender identity.
    Urge states to treat same-sex couples with full equality in their family and adoption laws
    Allow bankruptcy judges to modify terms of a home mortgage
    Increase the minimum wage to 9.50 an hour
    Restore Superfund program so that polluters pay for clean-ups
    Re-establish the National Aeronautics and Space Council
    Support human mission to moon by 2020
    Pay for the national service plan without increasing the deficit
    Limit term of director of national intelligence
    Give annual "State of the World" address
    Reduce earmarks to 1994 levels
    Enact windfall profits tax for oil companies
    Create cap and trade system with interim goals to reduce global warming
    Use revenue from cap and trade to support clean energy and environmental restoration
    Require plug-in fleet at the White House
    Provide an annual report on "state of our energy future"
    Allow penalty-free hardship withdraws from retirement accounts in 2008 and 2009.
    Recognize the Armenian genocide
    No family making less than 250,000 will see "any form of tax increase".
    Negotiate health care reform in public sessions televised on C-SPAN.
    Create a public option health plan for a new National Health Insurance Exchange
    Introduce a comprehensive immigration bill in the first year.


    Obama Outright falsehoods:
    (More at Politifact.com)

    "We've excluded lobbyists from policy making jobs"

    Health reform will "give every American the same opportunity" to buy health insurance the way members of Congress do.
    Preventative care "saves money".


    Obama's changed his views quite a bit since 2008 as well. Politifact has these as full blown "flip-flops"

    (From Politifact.com)

    On the president unilaterally authorizing a military attack "that does not involve stopping an actual imminent threat to the nation".
    In 2007, Obama was adamant that the president did not have the power to authorize an attack if there was no imminent threat to the U.S. But now he has authorized just such an action. Full Flop.
    On a government spending freeze. (He was for it before he was against it).

    On the importance of an independent voting record
    During the presidential campaign, Obama defended his 96 percent record as a strong stand for his principles. But when Brown has the same rating in Masschusetts, he's not independent enough. That earns Obama a Full Flop.
    On mandating healthcare coverage - (He bashed Hillary for it, but now it's okay)


    I DO agree with Obama on one thing though and here it is

    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Your Grade for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Have you never heard of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Dwight David Eisenhower, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Lyndon Baines Johnson, Richard Milhouse Nixon, James Earl Carter, Ronald Wilson Reagan, or William Jefferson Clinton?
    Not from any of the righties who insist on wielding the "Hussein" part like a cudgel.

    It's a pathetically immature and racially based way of pointing out that Obama is somehow not a real American-- too liberal, maybe born in Kenya, a elitist, has the same last name as the Muslim Arabs over there in the Mideast...

    It's pathetic. And hiding behind the "it's his middle name, what?" is wearing mighty thin.

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    Re: Your Grade for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    Not from any of the righties who insist on wielding the "Hussein" part like a cudgel.

    It's a pathetically immature and racially based way of pointing out that Obama is somehow not a real American-- too liberal, maybe born in Kenya, a elitist, has the same last name as the Muslim Arabs over there in the Mideast...

    It's pathetic. And hiding behind the "it's his middle name, what?" is wearing mighty thin.
    I always find it amusing how Democrats can pummel Republicans with Obama's actual middle name.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Your Grade for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I always find it amusing how Democrats can pummel Republicans with Obama's actual middle name.
    I find it amusing that that's what you think is going one here.

    It's like sixth graders making fun of a kid with the last name of Wiener. "What? It's you last name, WIENER."

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    Re: Your Grade for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    I find it amusing that that's what you think is going one here.

    It's like sixth graders making fun of a kid with the last name of Wiener. "What? It's you last name, WIENER."
    More like, I find it amusing that the kid being called "Weiner" gets others to beat up kids who have no problem with his last name.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Your Grade for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    More like, I find it amusing that the kid being called "Weiner" gets others to beat up kids who have no problem with his last name.
    Reading your posts is like watching a 10 year old jump on a scarecrow and scream "LOOK MAMA! I GOT ME A STRAW MAN!"
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    Re: Your Grade for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Reading your posts is like watching a 10 year old jump on a scarecrow and scream "LOOK MAMA! I GOT ME A STRAW MAN!"
    Ahh... so you're confused again by what you call a 10 year old post. What part would you like me to rephrase so you can understand it? Analogies are difficult for you to understanding... I know.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Your Grade for Obama

    I gave him a B. I think he's handled the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan with the correct measure, gets a bump for getting Bin Laden and letting SEALs take out some Somali dirtbag pirates. Otherwise he hasn't really done anything that other presidents before him haven't done. He'd get a higher grade if not for his dismal failure in what was called "health care reform" (just wait till 2014 people, that's when it will start hitting the fan for healthcare).
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