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  • C -- Marginal

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    Re: Your Grade for Obama

    I voted other. Obama showed that he, just like Bush, is a warmongering imperialist. Nothing has changed with the exception that things have gotten worse under Obama. He has pushed for more war (eg the "humanitarian intervention" in Libya and escalating the war in Afghanistan), his attempts to resuscitate the economy did nothing though he did try, he has just signed a bill into law that allows the President to indefinitely detain US citizens, and the situation with Iran has worsened with him stating that the US was "not taking any options off the table" in regards to dealing with Iran.
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    Re: Your Grade for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I believe that what happened in Egypt was largely out of our control and didn't have a lot to do with American action. The Administration simply saw that the future of Egypt wasn't on Mubarak's side and decided to back the winning horse. This has little to do with actual policy or action, because don't we always say that speeches aren't policy?
    Didnt say we should have stepped in or attempted to control their fate (though we did that in Libya...and then oddly NOT in Syria...curious that). Do you know what Obamas position is on Egypt? Now? then? for a while it was trumpeted as a great success...these uprisings and democracy. Now...silence...huh...why is that? Perhaps because people are getting killed there now, people are still dying by the hundreds in those other countries, etc. And again...where is the LEADERSHIP?

    what you are proposing is that its OK to just not have a foreign policy...which is fine...that makes you a Ron Paul supporter. The difference between Ron Paul and Obama is that Paul makes no bones about not engaging the world in foreign policy.

    So...would you be satisfied with a C- in the foreign policy realm? it wont make a difference in the overall grade...
    Last edited by VanceMack; 01-04-12 at 02:29 PM.

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    Re: Your Grade for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Egypt was under brutal control of a US backed dictator that allowed little to no freedom and democracy. Obama held is mouth shut and the US political system did. Egypt was brought down by the will of the people. We sold the man weapons that he used against his own people to try to throw off the revolution.
    Just another hypocritical system the US supported.
    Obama vowed to support the uprising and continue to be an ally to what has turned into an Islamist government.

    Have you noticed that Obama has supported uprisings against pro-American governments and reamined silent about uprisings against anti-American governments?
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    Re: Your Grade for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Hmm probably about a C-

    Quick question was is Obama the only president people like to use his middle name? Is Hussein a scary Islamic name?
    Have you never heard of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Dwight David Eisenhower, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Lyndon Baines Johnson, Richard Milhouse Nixon, James Earl Carter, Ronald Wilson Reagan, or William Jefferson Clinton?

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    Re: Your Grade for Obama

    I'd say that Obama has proved to be yet another hand puppet of the ruling elite, which is to be expected from a Junior Senator who barely knew his way around the Beltway when he moved into the Oval Office.
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    Re: Your Grade for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Didnt say we should have stepped in or attempted to control their fate (though we did that in Libya...and then oddly NOT in Syria...curious that). Do you know what Obamas position is on Egypt? Now? then? for a while it was trumpeted as a great success...these uprisings and democracy. Now...silence...huh...why is that? Perhaps because people are getting killed there now, people are still dying by the hundreds in those other countries, etc. And again...where is the LEADERSHIP?
    Well, I never said Obama was a brilliant leader, but regardless my point remains that what happened in Egypt doesn't really reflect on his own performance. Outside of some sort of military action, the only "leadership" the President could actually show was to perhaps make endless speeches - something his opponents have consistently criticized him for anyway.

    what you are proposing is that its OK to just not have a foreign policy...which is fine...that makes you a Ron Paul supporter. The difference between Ron Paul and Obama is that Paul makes no bones about not engaging the world in foreign policy.
    I'm not actually proposing that, i'm not actually proposing anything, really. I'm only saying that Egypt had little to nothing to do with the President's "foreign policy performance."

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    Re: Your Grade for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Have you never heard of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Dwight David Eisenhower, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Lyndon Baines Johnson, Richard Milhouse Nixon, James Earl Carter, Ronald Wilson Reagan, or William Jefferson Clinton?
    Yes, no, yes, yes, no, no, no, yes. In that order. who the **** says Richard Milhouse Nixon?

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    Re: Your Grade for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Well, I never said Obama was a brilliant leader, but regardless my point remains that what happened in Egypt doesn't really reflect on his own performance. Outside of some sort of military action, the only "leadership" the President could actually show was to perhaps make endless speeches - something his opponents have consistently criticized him for anyway.

    I'm not actually proposing that, i'm not actually proposing anything, really. I'm only saying that Egypt had little to nothing to do with the President's "foreign policy performance."
    OK...I have noted your exception and provisionally changed the grade to a c-...no affect on overall grade. We agree to disagree.

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    Re: Your Grade for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Yes, no, yes, yes, no, no, no, yes. In that order. who the **** says Richard Milhouse Nixon?
    Well, then you missed it because each of them had their middle name used.

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    Re: Your Grade for Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Yes, no, yes, yes, no, no, no, yes. In that order. who the **** says Richard Milhouse Nixon?
    Bart Simpson...

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