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Thread: Smoking in Cars

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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    guess we should also ban campfires, as they create lots of smoke...breathed in by innocent children.
    I'll take this a step further. How about we eliminate car fumes from harming our children. Would you rather be in an enclosed garage with a one car running for several hours or 10 smokers?
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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No. Lots of people smoke. Particularly back in the day when there was less information lots of people smoked around children. It didn't seem to make a significant impact on our population. Many of them grew up to be just fine in fact.
    How children of smokers are affected.

    I really don't know on this one. I can see and understand both points. Misterman has a point that children have no control over being exposed to what are very dangerous chemicals in cigarette smoke. Furthermore, children of smokers are more likely to smoke themselves, the aggregate effect of which has a large impact on our health care system in terms of higher health care costs. Why should children be forced to inhale ciagrette smoke?

    On the other hand, Thunder and Ikari have points about the ridiculousness of writing and enforcing such a law. How many cigarettes, at what distance is it considered "child abuse"? If I idle by a school bus in summer in my car, am I abusing kids if I'm smoking a cigarette? What if I move my family into a house or apartment that used to have smokers in it? Who would enforce such a technical law?

    I'm really at a loss on this one. I don't know how feel about this. I'm truly on the fence.

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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    guess we should also ban campfires, as they create lots of smoke...breathed in by innocent children.
    Yes, campfires inside cars on a daily basis should also be banned.

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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    On the other hand, Thunder and Ikari have points about the ridiculousness of writing and enforcing such a law. How many cigarettes, at what distance is it considered "child abuse"?
    As if we don't handle details like this in the law every day. It's not easy, but that doesn't mean we don't try.
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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    As if we don't handle details like this in the law every day. It's not easy, but that doesn't mean we don't try.
    Yeah, but we need to balance the overall benefit of the law with the added cost of enforcing it. It might be a wash or negative? And do we really want to have such mundane actions be micromanaged? We have a law in my town that no smoking is allowed within 20ft of a doorway. I've actually seen people come out with tape measures. And what about wind? If I'm 18ft away but there is a strong wind blowing my smoke away from the door, can I argue that in court when I am ticketed? What if I'm fifty feet away but the wind is blowing my smoke towards the door? Can the police still ticket me?

    It borders on ludicrous.
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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    You don't want your son to grow up in a world where children's growth isn't stunted by second-hand smoke and aren't exposed to carcinogens constantly? That "sterile" world?

    Get real. This is a public health issue. Your son will not be harmed because adults can't smoke in a car, even if the government has to make them stop being so stupid. What's next, are you going to mourn the good old days when kids could wallow in asbestos and drink lead in their water free from the bad old government spoiling their fun? WTF?
    This is not a public health issue you (impersonal of course ) snotty imbecile. I do not smoke in enclosed spaces with my son or anyone else. I just find that your presumption to know the limits of what others may or may not do is anathema to me. I have rarely seen such an abject idiotic argument. Are you for real? Do you have any friends?

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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Yes, campfires inside cars on a daily basis should also be banned.

    Don't play this game, it's stupid.
    car exhaust has CO and other bad fumes. should we ban cars from having their windows open or using the fan to bring in outside air?

    think about..the children.

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    Re: Smoking in Cars



    Lol

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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    think about..the children.
    Damn, you beat me to it.

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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    This is not a public health issue you (impersonal of course ) snotty imbecile. I do not smoke in enclosed spaces with my son or anyone else. I just find that your presumption to know the limits of what others may or may not do is anathema to me. I have rarely seen such an abject idiotic argument. Are you for real? Do you have any friends?
    In retrospect, I apologize in advance, but truth to tell, I have difficulty in hiding my contempt.

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