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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    I'd much rather we make it illegal to expose kids to high-fructose corn syrup, non-stop television & video games, total lack of sufficient exercise, and high-fat foods.

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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I think Arkansas is doing the right thing. Who gets to speak up for the kids in the back seat who have to inhale those toxic fumes? 5+ years of damage to those kids would probably be pretty bad, right?
    No. Lots of people smoke. Particularly back in the day when there was less information lots of people smoked around children. It didn't seem to make a significant impact on our population. Many of them grew up to be just fine in fact.
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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    You don't want your son to grow up in a world where children's growth isn't stunted by second-hand smoke and aren't exposed to carcinogens constantly? That "sterile" world?

    Get real. This is a public health issue. Your son will not be harmed because adults can't smoke in a car, even if the government has to make them stop being so stupid. What's next, are you going to mourn the good old days when kids could wallow in asbestos and drink lead in their water free from the bad old government spoiling their fun? WTF?
    How much harm is done by being in the car with the smoker? Should we put cameras in houses too...someone may be smoking around a child and we should stop it, yes?
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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I'd much rather we make it illegal to expose kids to high-fructose corn syrup, non-stop television & video games, total lack of sufficient exercise, and high-fat foods.
    Third fallacy of the thread - the straw man. And your old false dilemma is in there too, with a little slippery slope fallacy peeking out.

    Children should not be exposed to any kind of smoke in an enclosed area. If you can't agree with that, you explain why.
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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    How much harm is done by being in the car with the smoker?
    You want me to post all the studies showing the many harmful effects of second-hand smoke on children?

    Besides, it's SMOKE, for God's sake. Come on.

    Should we put cameras in houses too...someone may be smoking around a child and we should stop it, yes?
    Don't play that game.
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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No. Lots of people smoke. Particularly back in the day when there was less information lots of people smoked around children. It didn't seem to make a significant impact on our population. Many of them grew up to be just fine in fact.
    No they didn't. Lots of people had all kinds of terrible diseases, from asthma to cancer. You just didn't notice because you were used to it, or you didn't know that their diseases were linked to smoking, or they died and you forgot about them.
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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    You want me to post all the studies showing the many harmful effects of second-hand smoke on children?

    Besides, it's SMOKE, for God's sake. Come on....
    guess we should also ban campfires, as they create lots of smoke...breathed in by innocent children.

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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    You want me to post all the studies showing the many harmful effects of second-hand smoke on children?

    Besides, it's SMOKE, for God's sake. Come on.
    Yes. Lots of people say this and that is bad; but aggregate it. It has harmful chemicals, how much are actually inhaled as second hand? If a kid is in 1 car ride with an adult who smokes 1 cigarette, quantify the damage done. I've seen kids raised in the house of smokers, been in cars when I was a kid with smokers. I ain't dead. And I ain't any more or less healthy than I would have been without that exposure.

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Don't play that game.
    Why? It's important to have the rule, yes? It's important to use government force to protect the children from second hand smoke, yes? Why not then? Why will you not think of the children at home as well? You said "Children should not be exposed to any kind of smoke in an enclosed area." Is a house not an enclosed area?
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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    ...Children should not be exposed to any kind of smoke in an enclosed area. If you can't agree with that, you explain why.
    a car with the windows down, is not an enclosed area.

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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    No they didn't. Lots of people had all kinds of terrible diseases, from asthma to cancer. You just didn't notice because you were used to it, or you didn't know that their diseases were linked to smoking, or they died and you forgot about them.
    Quantify this please. How many, what percent over what exposure time?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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