View Poll Results: What do you think about smoking in cars?

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  • It shouldn't be banned at all.

    29 58.00%
  • I'm fine with Arkansas's current smoking law.

    3 6.00%
  • I'd like to see the law applied everywhere.

    15 30.00%
  • I don't know/Other

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Thread: Smoking in Cars

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    Re: Smoking in Cars

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    You know something, I haven't been on this website for very long but I have yet to see a post you submit be of any worth or intelligence. Your existence on this website is only to instigate and harass people that are actually looking for level, civil debate. I think you need a serious dose of self-confidence and self-worth because if all you have in your life to make you feel better is to come on this website and try to disavow other's opinions, you're in a bad way. Go to church, a counselor, or some __________ anonymous meeting man. Life isn't that bad.
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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    like slavery, which some states authorized while others did not. got it
    and i bet you hold yourself out as someone who advocates for smaller government, too
    So, why are you comparing a simple smoking law to slavery?

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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    So, why are you comparing a simple smoking law to slavery?
    its his states rights argument i am making the comparison toward
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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Are you being serious or just trying to prove a point? I can't figure it out.
    A little form column a, a little from column b.

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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    its his states rights argument i am making the comparison toward
    Yet what's wrong with that argument? If Arkansas wants to put up that smoking law, then it's no big deal. To try and bring slavery into the mix is similar to Godwinning a debate.
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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    its his states rights argument i am making the comparison toward
    State's rights were co-opted by the pro-slavery movement, but that doesn't mean that the issue of State's rights is bad. Just like if I were use a wrench to kill someone, it doesn't mean that wrenches are murder weapons.

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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    being without a rejoinder, all that is left for you is to attack the member whose posts you cannot defeat in debate
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    I know, I received a warning for it. Sorry to insult you justabubba. I will never call you out on your actions again.
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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Yet what's wrong with that argument? If Arkansas wants to put up that smoking law, then it's no big deal. To try and bring slavery into the mix is similar to Godwinning a debate.
    the states' rights point was made to respond to the assertion that under the guise of state's rights we should accept bad laws
    hopefully, we all acknowledge the legalization of slavery was wrong
    similarly, i was (weakly, it seems) presenting that a states' right argument in this instance does not similarly make a bad law an acceptable one
    the legalized slavery reference was used to make a very obvious point that sometimes states get it very, very wrong ... as did arkansas in this instance (about something much less significant than slavery)
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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    the states' rights point was made to respond to the assertion that under the guise of state's rights we should accept bad laws
    hopefully, we all acknowledge the legalization of slavery was wrong
    similarly, i was (weakly, it seems) presenting that a states' right argument in this instance does not similarly make a bad law an acceptable one
    the legalized slavery reference was used to make a very obvious point that sometimes states get it very, very wrong ... as did arkansas in this instance (about something much less significant than slavery)
    Well, then why bring slavery up? There's nothing inherently wrong with Arkansas bringing up a smoking law [in cars], that protect children. I don't think Arkansas is getting this one wrong.

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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Well, then why bring slavery up? There's nothing inherently wrong with Arkansas bringing up a smoking law [in cars], that protect children. I don't think Arkansas is getting this one wrong.
    I agree. I think Arkansas is making a good decision on this one. Nothing is more disgusting than seeing the helpless be subjected to the practices of the stupid. I think its stupid to smoke and children are helpless to avoid it if their parents do it. Good on ya Arkansas.
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