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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I never said communist dictatorship. But if we want to excuse the increase in government force, there must be proof and reason for it. And if these are all "won't somebody please think of the children" arguments; why just smoking?
    Both me and Removable Mind have provided reason for it. You just chose to ignore it. And yes, you never said dictatorship, but you were talking about cameras around the house. And I'm perfectly willing to promote regulations about food standards and auto emissions, but libertarians such as yourself will fight these regulations every step of the way.
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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    tobacco is legal.

    until its illegal, folks have the right to smoke in their own home or in their car.
    i do not mind people wanting to smoke in the car, when i do care is when they are putting a child at risk, smoke is bad for a person, and the children do not have a choice, they have to take it even if they do not want it. I do not see why anybody would ever not like this law, unless they enjoy putting children in danger.

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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    i do not mind people wanting to smoke in the car, when i do care is when they are putting a child at risk, smoke is bad for a person, and the children do not have a choice, they have to take it even if they do not want it. I do not see why anybody would ever not like this law, unless they enjoy putting children in danger.
    They probably haven't been locked in a small space with a smoker blowing smoke on them forcing them to breath it in.
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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Earlier today I heard a conversation about Arkansas, and the illegality of smoking in cars with the windows up. According to them, it's illegal to smoke in a car with children that are, iirc, 6 years of age or younger? I don't know which law this is, and have beeb searching for it to find out exactly what the law entails.

    I have this link that seems to support the conversation I heard: Law on smoking in car with children could change Arkansas - The Debate Team - BabyCenter

    Assuming this is true, I have no problem with the law.

    In fact, I'd like to see smoking in cars with the windows up completely banned, because I've heard 2nd/3rd-hand smoke is pretty dangerous.

    Would you like to see this law applied for the whole country? What do you think?
    Before reading the thread: It should be banned in cars with children 18 and under. If there are no children in the car, then it is up to the smoker if he/she wishes to kill him/herself with cancer sticks...
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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    by that logic, we should also make it illegal to smoke in your home when there are children around.
    Works for me...
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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Why do I care what you do to your kids? There are legal restrictions on age of smoking and blah blah blah. But I don't see how forcing kids to smoke follows from the argument. Rather it seems like an absurd hyperbole to deflect from the topic.
    if you are smoking in your car with your children in the back seat, you are forcing them to take in your poison...
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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yes. Lots of people say this and that is bad; but aggregate it. It has harmful chemicals, how much are actually inhaled as second hand? If a kid is in 1 car ride with an adult who smokes 1 cigarette, quantify the damage done. I've seen kids raised in the house of smokers, been in cars when I was a kid with smokers. I ain't dead. And I ain't any more or less healthy than I would have been without that exposure.
    How do you know this? It may be hard for some to believe because I was an elite athlete when I was younger, but I sufferred childhood asthma due to my parents both smoking. One of the reasons I got into sports in the first place was to get out of the house so I didn't have to be subjected to the smoke. Fortunately, my parents allowed it and I lived close enough to both my schools and the public library to pull it off. Not everyone is so fortunate.
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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by kamikaze483 View Post
    Nothing should be done by you or by the government. My car, my kids, my problem. Not yours. Mind your own business. That's what I say.
    You do not have the right to subject your children to cancer causing cigarette smoke. They are not your property; they are your responsibility and the government has a legitimate interest in protecting their rights as it has the same interest to protect the rights of ANY citizen.
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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    I don't know. You want to put fast food on the list for the next thread to open?
    Fast food in moderation is not harmful. Cigarette smoke in ANY quantity is harmful...
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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And now we should put cameras in the house, to make sure. I mean, think of the children won't you?
    Not necessary. If there truly is a problem, complaints can be made to school counselors who can then report it to child protective services.
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