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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Personally, this bandjumping wagon of going after smokers is getting old. Maybe more effort should be laws about showing young guys that are dorky getting the pretty cheerleader chicks if they pull out a case of Bud Light.

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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Enola View Post
    Personally, this bandjumping wagon of going after smokers is getting old. Maybe more effort should be laws about showing young guys that are dorky getting the pretty cheerleader chicks if they pull out a case of Bud Light.
    This, I also think it should also apply to Axe commercials.
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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    This, I also think it should also apply to Axe commercials.
    Well, I don't think AXE can lead to death.

    Unless, of course, you use your imagination.

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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    I grew up with a parent who smoked in the car, and I've had respiratory issues the rest of my life because of it. Smoking around children in this manner is child abuse. It's bad enough to do it in your home, but at least there the kid can go to a different room if they are really suffocating. In a car there is nowhere to go.

    If a parent was spraying aerosols onto their kid you would call it abusive, yet it's ok to exhale toxic tobacco smoke into a tiny space where children are? I don't think so.

    I don't think a law for this will do much good and I dislike authority more than I dislike smokers, but I really think hot-boxing your car with cigarettes while there are children in there is immoral and it's enough to warrant the involvement of social services.

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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    see below. Double post. Sorry. Board burped.

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    Re: Smoking in Cars


    I like you anyway, Temporal.

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    Smoker-that-smokes-in-the-car-but-never-with-a-kid-in-there.

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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Enola View Post

    I like you anyway, Temporal.

    Love,
    Smoker-that-smokes-in-the-car-but-never-with-a-kid-in-there.
    I have no problem with what you choose to do to yourself, and since you don't involve children then I also have no problem!

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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Doesn't the same apply to exhaust fumes? Or pesticides you decide to spray on your hedges by the roadside? Or the sugar-laden, trans-fat-laden, salt-laden foods you feed your kids? Unless you can prove that secondary smoking is THE most noxious and dangerous activity you can perform in the company of others you are opening yourself up to claims that you are being tokenistic for purely modish, moralistic reasons.
    Funny comparisons...but whatever trips your trigger. Maybe its time to pull you head out of your cigarette butt and catch up with the latest. Yes, second hand smoke is dangerous and can be deadly to kids and adults.

    Uhhhh, where have you been over the last decade Andalublue? The secret is out, dude. I don't have to prove anything. But a lot of folks have. In fact, there are so many links on the subject that my computer almost came to a screeching halt when plugging the topic in. Yes, won lawsuits out the wahzoo...over second hand smoke.

    Again, kids can't defend themselves from harms way imposed (or exposed to) by parents. Somebody...namely parents are responsible to protect their lives and health...regardless of the potential cause.

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    Re: Smoking in Cars

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    Yes, second hand smoke is dangerous and can be deadly to kids and adults.
    Proof please.
    Uhhhh, where have you been over the last decade Andalublue? The secret is out, dude. I don't have to prove anything. But a lot of folks have. In fact, there are so many links on the subject that my computer almost came to a screeching halt when plugging the topic in. Yes, won lawsuits out the wahzoo...over second hand smoke.
    Proof please. Proof that specifically relates to children and cars. The average car journey is something like 17 minutes, I believe. If you are calling for a ban on secondary smoking in cars, why not in private house where exposure is going to be far higher?

    Again, kids can't defend themselves from harms way imposed (or exposed to) by parents. Somebody...namely parents are responsible to protect their lives and health...regardless of the potential cause.
    And, once again, my point is avoided. There are plenty and more serious harms inflicted on kids by parents that are not legislated against. How about ensuring that no one under 18 is allowed to buy or consume a super-size fast food meal. The 20 minutes or so that such a meal takes to consume will do immeasurably more damage to a kid's health than a 20-minute car ride with a smoker. Two of those every working day (commensurate with 2x20 minute smoky school runs) will probably result in Type-2 diabetes before the age of 25. What is the clear and present danger of 2x20-minute smoky school runs? Peer-reviewed evidence please.

    The real task here for trigger-happy, behavioural legislators is to identify a list of the greatest health risks and start at the top and work down. Only once such research has been done can one begin to take these passive smoking obsessionists seriously.
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    Re: Smoking in Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Proof please.

    Proof please. Proof that specifically relates to children and cars. The average car journey is something like 17 minutes, I believe. If you are calling for a ban on secondary smoking in cars, why not in private house where exposure is going to be far higher?


    And, once again, my point is avoided. There are plenty and more serious harms inflicted on kids by parents that are not legislated against. How about ensuring that no one under 18 is allowed to buy or consume a super-size fast food meal. The 20 minutes or so that such a meal takes to consume will do immeasurably more damage to a kid's health that a 20-minute car ride with a smoker. Two of those every working day (commensurate with 2x20 minute smoky school runs) will probably result in Type-2 diabetes before the age of 25.

    The real task here for trigger-happy, behavioural legislators is to identify a list of the greatest health risks and start at the top and work down. Only once such research has been done can one begin to take these passive smoking obsessionists seriously.
    Smoker's denial...clearly. I don't have to prove anything. Proof is on any search engine. Its everywhere.

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