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  • One federal seat belt law for everyone in the vehicle

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  • One federal seat belt law, but just for children

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  • Leave it up to the states to decide seat belt laws

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    But you are putting other people in the car in danger as well by not wearing a seat belt, especially in the back seat. If an accident occurs and you do not have a seat belt on, you now become an unsecured projectile within that car. Your body, especially your skull, can now hit others in the car, causing serious injuries, including brain damage.
    Not just within the vehicle, but outside of it as well, as many individuals who aren't secured are thrown from the vehicle through a door or the windshield.

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Can't believe we're having a retarded conversation about the word retard instead of the actual topic at hand.

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Belmont California. Though you have to complain about a smoker for them to show up about it.
    Applies to apartments, not "homes" in general. Others living in those apartment buildings are exposed to second hand smoke just due to living in that building.
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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    So if I understand the argument being put up by folks who support seat belt laws, because the desicion to not wear a seat belt could possibly result in more serious injuries that could possibly be paid for by the taxpayers government coercion is justified. If I'm wrong here, please correct me.

    But assuming I understand the argument correctly, then why don't we ban alcohol? I'm sure we spend faaaaar more tax dollars dealing with the after affects of alcohol use like drunk driving, drunken crimes, and the health costs of alcohol abuse. Tobacco is also probably more costly. Unhealthy foods probably are too. Lack of exercise. Unsafe sex. Should we start regulating all of these things too in the name of keeping shared costs down? If not, where and how do you draw the line? I've always been curious as to how people who advocate more and more government regulations of our day to day lives draw the line between enough government and too much government. I've always suspected for most folks the line is right around things I like and things I don't like, but perhaps I'm wrong.

    Seat belts are a good idea, but if someone choses not to wear one it does not have a major impact on the society. I'm guessing as a percentage the money spent on treating injuries seat belts could've prevented is very minimal.
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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    So if I understand the argument being put up by folks who support seat belt laws, because the desicion to not wear a seat belt could possibly result in more serious injuries that could possibly be paid for by the taxpayers government coercion is justified. If I'm wrong here, please correct me.
    That's part of the reason, but that's not the whole justification.

    But assuming I understand the argument correctly, then why don't we ban alcohol? I'm sure we spend faaaaar more tax dollars dealing with the after affects of alcohol use like drunk driving, drunken crimes, and the health costs of alcohol abuse. Tobacco is also probably more costly. Unhealthy foods probably are too. Lack of exercise. Unsafe sex. Should we start regulating all of these things too in the name of keeping shared costs down? If not, where and how do you draw the line? I've always been curious as to how people who advocate more and more government regulations of our day to day lives draw the line between enough government and too much government. I've always suspected for most folks the line is right around things I like and things I don't like, but perhaps I'm wrong.

    Seat belts are a good idea, but if someone choses not to wear one it does not have a major impact on the society. I'm guessing as a percentage the money spent on treating injuries seat belts could've prevented is very minimal.
    We tried that, we all know what happened.

    A better analogy for the seat belt argument would be if we got rid of drunk driving laws.

    Edit: at the end of the day, seat belt laws are more about safety than anything else. That's how I see it.
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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Applies to apartments, not "homes" in general. Others living in those apartment buildings are exposed to second hand smoke just due to living in that building.
    Apartments are the place they are living for those people. The same exact argument you are making could be made for homes in general as other people could be living in the home. My argument stands.

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    How about this: seat belt and motorcycle helmet laws apply, but you are exempt from them if you are certified as a organ donor.

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Edit: at the end of the day, seat belt laws are more about safety than anything else. That's how I see it.
    It's fundraising. Another law to violate, another fine to hand out. This is particularly true in places where seat belt violations are a primary law; meaning you can be pulled over merely for not having it on.
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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Can't believe we're having a retarded conversation about the word retard instead of the actual topic at hand.
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    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    How about this: seat belt and motorcycle helmet laws apply, but you are exempt from them if you are certified as a organ donor.
    Woot! I am an organ donor. Oddly, I always wear my seat belt in the car, but rarely do I wear my helmet on my motorcycle. Relatively speaking, the no helmet is far greater risk to my life than no seat belt
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