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  • One federal seat belt law for everyone in the vehicle

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  • One federal seat belt law, but just for children

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  • Leave it up to the states to decide seat belt laws

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Thread: Seat Belt Laws

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    so you also believe cocaine, crack, meth, and heroine should be legal?
    Not comparable. If you choose to not wear your seat belt, you aren't in danger of hurting anyone but yourself. If you do meth or heroine, it's very likely that you could hurt someone else.


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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    because we are a civilized society, not jungle-people.
    Should alcohol be illegal?


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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    I am against seat belt laws of any kind. I think Texas passed our seat belt law back in ~1983. I never put mine on until I was ticketed for not wearing one in 1993. I've worn it ever since that day.

    I just feel that it's too much. Why can't you take it off when you're in a traffic jam, or a residential speed zone? Am I really going to cost tax-payers if someone dents my fender? I'm a tax-payer too.

    I know that many of you are going to freak out about this, but I didn't wear a bicycle helmet when I was growing up, and I remember when we were all free to move about the car cabin.
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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Do some states in the US not have mandatory seatbelt laws?

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Accurately finding who is at fault in an 'accident' is essentially impossible. So in an accident where someone hasn't taken reasonable self-protection, seatbelt or helmet, and is injured then they should bare a significant responsibility for their injuries. The legal expenses are large for settling how much your failure to where a seat belt contributed to your injuries increases my insurance costs. And I sill have to pay for those that can't afford their injuries and end up in a ER with the public paying. Also from what I've seen it's frequently the stupid poor people in their poorly maintained cars that aren't wearing their seat belts.
    Last edited by OhIsee.Then; 01-02-12 at 01:45 PM.

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That's retarded.
    Please don't use demeaning terms like that.

    I pay taxes, I can gain access to any of that even if I don't wear a seatbelt. It's not the government's job to protect me from me. I don't wear a helmet when on my motorcycle for instance. I hate my helmet, it sucks ass. If I wreck and die, I paid taxes and they can hose my body off the road. but it ain't the government's place to say I can't. There should be no seat belt laws.
    You're payment of taxes doesn't entitle you to use taxpayer services recklessly. That's like saying you can just quit your job and go on welfare simply because you pay the taxes that go toward welfare.

    If you are stupid, and don't wear a seatbelt and are disabled and need government support, you're using MORE than your share of taxes - in other words, you're consuming some of MY taxes too. I shouldn't have to support you or your family just because you're a ****ing idiot who can't simply strap in a belt. I don't care if you're too stupid to live, but you don't get to use my tax dollars to support your idiocy.
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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Not comparable. If you choose to not wear your seat belt, you aren't in danger of hurting anyone but yourself.
    But you are in danger of imposing costs on your family and society if you are killed or injured or disabled.
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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Not comparable. If you choose to not wear your seat belt, you aren't in danger of hurting anyone but yourself. If you do meth or heroine, it's very likely that you could hurt someone else.
    um...how so?

    how does someone doing meth or heroine in the privacy of their own home, endanger anyone?

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Care to explain why you think people shouldn't be able to kill themselves with bad choices?
    Because individuals don't live in a vacuum. Libertarianism and all this non-coercion bull**** would be fine if everybody in the world lived in their own little igloo and had nothing to do with each other. They don't. Your bad choices don't affect you alone.
    Last edited by StillBallin75; 01-02-12 at 02:24 PM.

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I know that many of you are going to freak out about this, but I didn't wear a bicycle helmet when I was growing up, and I remember when we were all free to move about the car cabin.
    Yeah, I remember those days, too. Knocked out my two front teeth when I was seven because of a sudden stop. Child abuse, I tell ya'!
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