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  • One federal seat belt law for everyone in the vehicle

    17 21.25%
  • One federal seat belt law, but just for children

    1 1.25%
  • Leave it up to the states to decide seat belt laws

    25 31.25%
  • There should be no seat belt laws for adults

    30 37.50%
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Thread: Seat Belt Laws

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    No that's fine, we should instead increase the speed limit to 90.

    Effects Of Raising And Lowering Speed limits

    Me personally, on the interstate I regularly push 80-85. My timing feels right-on at that speed. In between, I would say 40-65, it feels off. I'm not sure how to explain it.
    Ive also driven long distances at very high speeds, though not any more, Im retired. An example is across the four corners reservation at 95 on a 55 limit highway. Since you do to, I assume you know to slow down before passing normal speed cars since they are not capable of being safely passed with a 40 to 45 mph closing speed, and you know all the other issues with a 45 mph speed difference. Right?

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    No, it doesn't. I have always achknowledged that seat belts do save lives. Particularly from frontal collisions. They however do not help when you get T-boned and only partially help when getting rear ended. The way seat belts are designed is to stop a person from going forward, they are not designed to do anything else. And 9 times outta 10 a seat belt will get you killed if you crash into a body of water that is deep enough to cover the vehicle that you are in so they are an actual detriment there.
    Actually I did misunderstand you. You clairified it here.
    In 2010 roughly 32,000 people were killed due to automobile accidents. That includes people just standing in the street as the vehicle killed em. That's less than 1% of the US's total population. I wouldn't say that the "morgue" is full of people. Unless you're talking about the hospital that you work at? In which case nothing I can say to that.
    -It was a general figure of speech whose meaning would be clear to most anyone but you seem to jump on the smallest of things while bypassing my main point which was..."Not wearing a seatbelt because it's your personal choice is one thing. Claiming it makes sense in the name of freedom is not."


    So, can you prove to me, beyond a shadow of a doubt that seatbelts are not the cause of deaths? Because otherwise my statements are not misleading nor false.
    Again, you're twisting a conversation to focus on the minor. The debate is about government mandated seatbelts that have been empirically proven by experts, to save lives. Mandated, because many refuse or can't be bothered to buckle up. By arguing that you won't wear one because seatbelts cause deaths and then back that up by stating I know of 3 people personally that were hurt or died due to seatbelts and one that if she had been wearing her seatbelt she would have died. I know of no one personally that was saved due to wearing one. has the potential of misleading some people into believing that seatbelts cause more harm than good. They don't and you know that, and it's misleading.

    As for taking what I say with a lot of salt...anyone should do that anyways. And not just with me but with anyone and everyone except your closest loved ones. Thats part of the reason that my sig is designed exactly the way that it is and what my example shows. See, everyone has an answer for anything and everything. Even if that answer is simply an "I don't know". If you get asked a question you will always have an answer to that question. It is up to the person that recieves your answer as to what they will do with that answer.

    And believe me, I've always admitted when I was wrong. I've done so many times since before I joined DP, while i've been here and will no doubt continue to do so long after DP ends. All that you have to do is actually prove that I am wrong.
    If two people died because they were wearing a seatbelt and one trillion people were saved by wearing seatbelts you would be correct that people die wearing seatbelts. If this was the basis of your entire argument then it was a big waste of time for me. Add to that the failure to convince you that you should always wear a seatbelt makes me a failure too but anyway this thread has run it's course and you may have the last word but please buckle up...

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    I and my passengers have been saved from serious injury several times by wearing my seat belts. The first occurrence was when I was driving my ’55 Austin Healy 100 in 1965. I was very glad I had installed them.

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