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  • One federal seat belt law for everyone in the vehicle

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  • One federal seat belt law, but just for children

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  • Leave it up to the states to decide seat belt laws

    25 31.25%
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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Leave it up to the states, but it should definately be required for children under the age of 18 to be belted up...
    Actually, I agree with this only because it really isn't something that should be handled at a federal level.

    I just think that all states should have mandatory seat belt laws.
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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Actually, I agree with this only because it really isn't something that should be handled at a federal level.

    I just think that all states should have mandatory seat belt laws.
    Personally, I think anyone who does not wear a seat belt is an idiot and the states SHOULD have mandatory seat belt laws, but as you quite correctly mentioned, it is not the purvue of the federal government.
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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Not wearing a seatbelt puts more than just the person not wearing it at risk.

    The person could be ejected from the car and is now a projectile, capable of hitting other cars or causing more accidents because people are trying to avoid running over them. Or, those not wearing seat belts can become projectiles within the car, hitting other passengers with their body and head. Being hit by a person's head that is flying around a car that had been going 50, 60 mph is lethal force. People have been killed and seriously injured by other passengers not wearing their seatbelts, even if they themselves were wearing one.

    New Illinois state law requires adults to wear seatbelts in backseat | abc7chicago.com
    ALL I can do is shake my head. People died trying to give us and preserve our liberty and freedom and everyone wants to give it up just for a little bit of supposed safety.

    Tell me, how many people have died this way vs how many have died due to wearing seatbelts?
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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    ALL I can do is shake my head. People died trying to give us and preserve our liberty and freedom and everyone wants to give it up just for a little bit of supposed safety.

    Tell me, how many people have died this way vs how many have died due to wearing seatbelts?
    I haven't been able to find this because neither statistic seems to be tracked.

    I do know however that people are run over by other drivers due to being ejected from their vehicles. That is a fact. How exactly do you stop that person from feeling bad for running over the guy/girl in the road who wouldn't have been there had they worn their seatbelt? Or are you going to try to tell me this doesn't happen? Maybe it isn't your problem?

    This ad is what really made me realize how dangerous it is for others in the car to not wear their seatbelt. It is a little disturbing and made me cry the first time I saw it.



    And this isn't just some sensationalist video. It can and does happen.

    By wearing your seatbelt, you are putting yourself in a much safer position than by not wearing it, and you are making it safer for everyone else in the car. By not wearing your seatbelt, you might have a slight chance of saving your life in the very rare instance where you are in a crash where you are not incapacitated but would be fatally restrained into the car had you been wearing your seatbelt. However, you are also putting others at risk who would not be in any danger from you at all had you been wearing your seatbelt.

    Hell, I can think of an instance in NC where having children buckled into car seats got the two children and their mother killed. (She stupidly stopped on railroad tracks and got pinned in when a train was coming. She was frantically trying to unbuckle her kids and they all died.) Does that mean that we should now do away with all child safety seat laws because I know of one instance where they cost a family or at least 3 people in a family their lives?
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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Personally, I think anyone who does not wear a seat belt is an idiot and the states SHOULD have mandatory seat belt laws, but as you quite correctly mentioned, it is not the purvue of the federal government.
    One federal law would be better, less confusing, more fair. The states have shown that they cannot be trusted to do what is best.
    And it makes sense to have one law rather than 50 different ones...
    I also disagree with the "idiot" thing.... I do NOT always "buckle up"....and I doubt if I am the only one...

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I haven't been able to find this because neither statistic seems to be tracked.

    I do know however that people are run over by other drivers due to being ejected from their vehicles. That is a fact. How exactly do you stop that person from feeling bad for running over the guy/girl in the road who wouldn't have been there had they worn their seatbelt? Or are you going to try to tell me this doesn't happen? Maybe it isn't your problem?

    This ad is what really made me realize how dangerous it is for others in the car to not wear their seatbelt. It is a little disturbing and made me cry the first time I saw it.



    And this isn't just some sensationalist video. It can and does happen.

    By wearing your seatbelt, you are putting yourself in a much safer position than by not wearing it, and you are making it safer for everyone else in the car. By not wearing your seatbelt, you might have a slight chance of saving your life in the very rare instance where you are in a crash where you are not incapacitated but would be fatally restrained into the car had you been wearing your seatbelt. However, you are also putting others at risk who would not be in any danger from you at all had you been wearing your seatbelt.

    Hell, I can think of an instance in NC where having children buckled into car seats got the two children and their mother killed. (She stupidly stopped on railroad tracks and got pinned in when a train was coming. She was frantically trying to unbuckle her kids and they all died.) Does that mean that we should now do away with all child safety seat laws because I know of one instance where they cost a family or at least 3 people in a family their lives?
    Those are like the worst drivers ever. I'm going to stay off that road for sure!
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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Enola View Post
    My body. My car. My choice. I choose not to wear one and it's nobody's responsibility to pay to save my life if I get in a wreck. I am responsible. Me. Nobody else. If I choose to take the chance and not wear the belt, then it's my problem. Mine.
    My thinking is similar...BUT that does not make it right...
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    My thinking is similar, BUT, that does NOT make it "right".
    In truth, its not "your" car, its society's, its the other passengers in the vehicle, its even the man on the street.. Read the other posts as I have...
    In other words, lets be less selfish and more aware of the way things really are....
    As far as the silly "losing of rights and liberties" goes...this has been going on since day one, with the advent of the second human....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Those are like the worst drivers ever. I'm going to stay off that road for sure!
    Some nations have zero, 0.0, nada, absolutely no driver training....Our driver training of 50 years ago was not that much better...some poorer / southern states had nothing in this area.
    Watch a segment of "Ice Road Truckers" where they drive their big-rigs in uncivilized "countries"....The ice roads are much safer...

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Enola View Post
    My body. My car. My choice. I choose not to wear one and it's nobody's responsibility to pay to save my life if I get in a wreck. I am responsible. Me. Nobody else. If I choose to take the chance and not wear the belt, then it's my problem. Mine.
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    Why should I be forced to wear a seat belt if someone else is allowed to ride a motorcycle without anything but a helmet? That's kind of hypocritical.
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