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  • One federal seat belt law for everyone in the vehicle

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  • One federal seat belt law, but just for children

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  • Leave it up to the states to decide seat belt laws

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by coolwalker View Post
    This was the beginning of our loss of personal choice and no one said anything...step by step more rights are taken away until the government makes all our choices for us and we then don gray uniforms and hats.
    I'll ignore the hyperbolic rhetoric and note that you must not be very old or experienced if you think this was the beginning.

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Seat belt laws save lives.

    Why would you be against something that saves lives?

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Why would you be against something that saves lives?
    Because it goes against Bender's mandate of killing all humans.
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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Seatbelt laws should be enforced by the States, not the Fed. I'm sorry but the choice to wear a seatbelt or not does not just affect you. If you're sitting in the backseat in a car going 80mph and the car impacts, you can easily go flying into the person in front of you (who could be the driver) and kill them, or anywhere else in the car. If you're driving alone and want to be stupid by not wearing one, your choice. If you're driving with others, then your choice affects them.

    If your body flies out the windshield and into traffic, that could be a source of more accidents. It has happened. While the accident is in progress, you have a better chance of regaining control of your vehicle if you're not flying all over the place in your car. If you have children and don't fasten them in, then you're a neglectful parent and the State should come down on you. It's not just about collecting fines. The State has a vested interest in preserving life, and seatbelts are unfailingly proven to reduce injury and death.

    About forfeiting your access to services if you don't wear a belt, I think that's kind of a moot argument considering that the level of care you receive will be determined by what kind of health coverage you have. Sure, EMS will take you to the hospital, you might even get emergency surgery, but instead of getting a procedure that saves your legs or your motor skills, you might get the bare minimum and end up a quadriplegic instead.

    Quit being a crybaby and wear the damn seatbelt. It takes a few seconds to put it in and that can save yourself as well as others.

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Seat belt laws save lives.

    Why would you be against something that saves lives?
    Seat belts also take lives.

    Anti-gun advocates believe that if even one death can be prevented by taking away a persons rights to have guns then it is worth losing that right and freedom. And yet people still want the right to have a gun if they so choose to. They want the right to be able to choose how to live their own lives...even if that means that they put their own lives in danger.

    We as a country...no, as human beings are always putting ourselves at risk when there is no reason to do so. Example: Sky diving, bungee cord jumping, gliders, driving period, and countless other things. What makes driving without a seatbelt any different than any of those examples I gave? Driving without a seatbelt endangers no one but the person that is not wearing a seatbelt.
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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Hey, I have a PhD in physics; I just hate helmets. They're stuffy and cut off vision and I prefer to ride without one. Should be my call.
    Actually I agree with you, I was just in a smart ass mood. A helmet saved my life once in a motorcycle wreck but in a car wreck I had I would of been dead if I had a seat belt on, who the Hell knows when your times up.

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Driving without a seatbelt endangers no one but the person that is not wearing a seatbelt.
    Not wearing a seatbelt puts more than just the person not wearing it at risk.

    The person could be ejected from the car and is now a projectile, capable of hitting other cars or causing more accidents because people are trying to avoid running over them. Or, those not wearing seat belts can become projectiles within the car, hitting other passengers with their body and head. Being hit by a person's head that is flying around a car that had been going 50, 60 mph is lethal force. People have been killed and seriously injured by other passengers not wearing their seatbelts, even if they themselves were wearing one.

    New Illinois state law requires adults to wear seatbelts in backseat | abc7chicago.com

    Illinois State Police say backseat passengers can be projectiles. Fatalities have been caused to front seat passengers who were hit by rear passengers not wearing seat belts.
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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    My body. My car. My choice. I choose not to wear one and it's nobody's responsibility to pay to save my life if I get in a wreck. I am responsible. Me. Nobody else. If I choose to take the chance and not wear the belt, then it's my problem. Mine.
    Period.

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Enola View Post
    My body. My car. My choice. I choose not to wear one and it's nobody's responsibility to pay to save my life if I get in a wreck. I am responsible. Me. Nobody else. If I choose to take the chance and not wear the belt, then it's my problem. Mine.
    Period.
    What about that person whose killed by your flying body when you get ejected from your car? What about those people who end up in accidents because your body is now blocking the roadway and people are trying not to run you over just in case you are still alive? What about other people in the car with you who may be wearing their seatbelts but are hit by your flailing head during an accident because you are traveling around the car? Now they're brain damaged or possibly dead because of your choice not to wear a seatbelt.

    Your decision to not wear a seatbelt can harm others.
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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Leave it up to the states, but it should definately be required for children under the age of 18 to be belted up...
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