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  • One federal seat belt law for everyone in the vehicle

    17 21.25%
  • One federal seat belt law, but just for children

    1 1.25%
  • Leave it up to the states to decide seat belt laws

    25 31.25%
  • There should be no seat belt laws for adults

    30 37.50%
  • Something else

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Thread: Seat Belt Laws

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    There should be no seat belt laws.
    NO seatbelt laws? What about for children passengers?

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    I am one of the "something else" category....Yes! "seat belts save lives", but, then so do well engineered highways and a comprehensive driver training program and quality motor-vehicles...
    IMO, its best that the states handle this; but some seem to be unable/unwilling....maybe they should lose their statehood status.....
    Here in PA, as I recall, the police will not do a pull over unless they suspect another infraction....then it could be a double or triple whammie..
    I definitely do not believe that any driver should be forced to wear the belt !!!
    The most important thing is good thorough driver training. The highways(many states are poor) will have to wait; the belts are but a band-aid.

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    The cost would be very minimal. Banning motorcycles would cost very little in terms of enforcement. Jobs lost by motorcycle manufacturing and sales would be moved over into the car industry. The benefits would be increased safety and fewer severe injuries driving up the costs of healthcare. Seems to me, if you have the mindset that the government's job is to make the world as safe as possible, banning motorcycles is an easy no-brainer. They have got to be far more dangerous than just not wearing a seatbelt.
    You can't be serious.
    What we do need is far more emphasis on respect and courtesy and less on "safety".

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Why a single shoulder belt? Wouldn't a crossing 'X' shoulder and chest belt be much safer? It would only require one additional click.

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    I am against seatbelt and helmet laws. Let the stupid people that refuse to wear them die before they reproduce and spread their "stupid" gene.

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I am against seatbelt and helmet laws. Let the stupid people that refuse to wear them die before they reproduce and spread their "stupid" gene.
    Hey, I have a PhD in physics; I just hate helmets. They're stuffy and cut off vision and I prefer to ride without one. Should be my call.
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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    There have been instances where people have died because they were wearing a set belt. Trapped in a fire or underwater, etc. I also once read about a specific accident where a person was saved because they weren't wearing a seat belt and got thrown clear from the vehicle and would have been crushed to death had they been wearing a seat belt. Yes, these things do indeed happen. These are referred to as anecdotes, and the numbers in which they happen are far below the numbers of instances where seat belts actually did save lives.

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    There have been instances where people have died because they were wearing a set belt. Trapped in a fire or underwater, etc. I also once read about a specific accident where a person was saved because they weren't wearing a seat belt and got thrown clear from the vehicle and would have been crushed to death had they been wearing a seat belt. Yes, these things do indeed happen. These are referred to as anecdotes, and the numbers in which they happen are far below the numbers of instances where seat belts actually did save lives.
    Yes: seatbelts are there to reduce the risk of death - not to prevent it altogether. No such thing as complete protection and prevention.
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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    This was the beginning of our loss of personal choice and no one said anything...step by step more rights are taken away until the government makes all our choices for us and we then don gray uniforms and hats.

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by coolwalker View Post
    This was the beginning of our loss of personal choice and no one said anything...step by step more rights are taken away until the government makes all our choices for us and we then don gray uniforms and hats.
    Hmm?

    Everyone always balks at everything the government has ever and always done - there hasn't been a single measure, value, rule or regulation passed that did't have opposition. Seat belts being required in vehicles - and the following laws decades later - are not exempt. Many people have object - and always will.
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