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  • One federal seat belt law, but just for children

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  • Leave it up to the states to decide seat belt laws

    25 31.25%
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Thread: Seat Belt Laws

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    This is where a cost/benefit analysis comes in handy.
    Essentially, this thread epitomizes the friction between deontological libertarian thinking vs. that of utilitarianism.

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    But you are in danger of imposing costs on your family and society if you are killed or injured or disabled.
    Stop trying to put everyone on the government dole and you won't have to worry about it.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    sounds like you want more people & children to die in car and motorcycle crashes.
    If they're not smart enough to wear safety equipment that could save their lives, then it will clean out the gene pool.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Stop trying to put everyone on the government dole and you won't have to worry about it.
    many life insurance policies do not cover suicide.

    if someone kills themselves due to an OD on drugs, their family is left with nothing...and often has to go on public assistance.

    see? drugs DOES effect everyone.

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    On 2 - I know you might be joking, but should little children die because their parents are stupid?
    I'm not saying they, "should", die.

    But, at the same time, I never said anything about kids not being restrained...but nevermind that fact.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    That doesn't follow.

    There are community colleges open to all though.
    Of course it follows, educating other people benefits me, yes? Should University be free for all. Not "open to all", most are open and people may apply. If funding the education of others is a benefit to me, then obviously that follows to higher education as well. Should it be free for all?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Um, okay, everywhere except Detroit. Doesn't change my point that the government has all kinds of laws that require you not to do stupid things because you'd be wasting taxpayer's money if you did.
    Well it's not just Detroit. Many of the large cities like Chicago, LA, St. Louis, etc all have dilapidated sectors which have unsafe buildings and property in them.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    many life insurance policies do not cover suicide.

    if someone kills themselves due to an OD on drugs, their family is left with nothing...and often has to go on public assistance.

    see? drugs DOES effect everyone.
    Unemployed people effect everyone. Are we going to make it illegal to be unemployed? Are we going to cut off government programs that help drug addicts? Are we going to stop governmetn funded abortions?

    BTW, I never said anything about drugs. You're arguing with a fence post, on that one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Unemployed people effect everyone. Are we going to make it illegal to be unemployed? Are we going to cut off government programs that help drug addicts? Are we going to stop governmetn funded abortions?
    The government doesn't fund abortions.

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    I still don't see how you can enforce seat belts in cars and allow motorcycles on the road. It's an oxymoron.
    Einstein, "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

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    Re: Seat Belt Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    ...Are we going to stop governmetn funded abortions?....


    in the United States of America, there are NO government funded abortions.

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