View Poll Results: What Kind of libertarian are you? Libertarian poll only.

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  • Deontological (coercion is always immoral)

    3 20.00%
  • Consequentialist (non-coercion has better consequences than coercion)

    7 46.67%
  • Pro-Proprietarian (for personal property)

    11 73.33%
  • Anti-Proprietarian (against personal property)

    0 0%
  • Statist (state is necessary)

    9 60.00%
  • Anarchist (state is harmful)

    3 20.00%
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Thread: Libertarian Poll

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    Re: Libertarian Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Antiderivative View Post
    How do you straddle Burkean Conservatism with Goldwater Conservatism who wasn't a fan of Burke or the Jacobians?
    I have never read Goldwater's book. Of the American conservatives I tend to read Russell Kirk, Richard Weaver, Robert Nisbet and the New Humanists and similar traditionalist and paleo- conservatives.
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    Re: Libertarian Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    I have never read Goldwater's book. Of the American conservatives I tend to read Russell Kirk, Richard Weaver, Robert Nisbet and the New Humanists and similar traditionalist and paleo- conservatives.
    You should read Conscience of a Conservative. It is a good read, even though it was ghost written.

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    Re: Libertarian Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by JustinS View Post
    How does one make such a great ideological transformation? How long did that take?

    I have heard of people switch from libertarian to socialist before, but never from anarchist to traditionalist.
    I know this isn't the topic of your thread, but you did ask the question. I was more a radical decentralist than anything else and I tried, not completely successfully, to absorb all sorts of decentralist thought, from left to right, into my way of thinking. The human scale decentralists, like E.F Schumacher, Leopold Kohr, Ivan Illich, Lord Northbourne, Kirkpatrick Sale, Lewis Mumford and the distributists like Chesterton and so forth, were some of my favourite thinkers and they, along with reading Burke, Hayek and Robert Nisbet, did nudge me in a conservative direction, but not a crass, corporate-capitalist one. I still retain my broadly distributist and decentralist, though I'm not as radical a decentralist as I once was, position. This is why you won't find me with the other conservatives on this site, defending corporate-capitalism, indeed you will probably find me more anti-corporate than most leftists on this site, though neither do I defend social democracy or liberalism either.

    The Mutualist writer Kevin Carson, who I believe came up with the phrase vulgar libertarian to describe those who claim to be free market but defend and claim the successes of state capitalism, showed me how many of these human scale writers had so much to offer. He is an excellent author, that all should read on the massive and endemic place of the state in capitalism since its inception.
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    Re: Libertarian Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    I know this isn't the topic of your thread, but you did ask the question. I was more a radical decentralist than anything else and I tried, not completely successfully, to absorb all sorts of decentralist thought, from left to right, into my way of thinking. The human scale decentralists, like E.F Schumacher, Leopold Kohr, Ivan Illich, Lord Northbourne, Kirkpatrick Sale, Lewis Mumford and the distributists like Chesterton and so forth, were some of my favourite thinkers and they, along with reading Burke, Hayek and Robert Nisbet, did nudge me in a conservative direction, but not a crass, corporate-capitalist one. I still retain my broadly distributist and decentralist, though I'm not as radical a decentralist as I once was, position. This is why you won't find me with the other conservatives on this site, defending corporate-capitalism, indeed you will probably find me more anti-corporate than most leftists on this site, though neither do I defend social democracy or liberalism either.

    The Mutualist writer Kevin Carson, who I believe came up with the phrase vulgar libertarian to describe those who claim to be free market but defend and claim the successes of state capitalism, showed me how many of these human scale writers had so much to offer. He is an excellent author, that all should read on the massive and endemic place of the state in capitalism since its inception.
    That makes more sense - going from a decentralist anarchist position to a distributist position is definitely less of a leap than going to a center-right, lasseiz-faire position.

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