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    Re: Are pro-2nd Amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    yes, and apparently some folks believe that if any more restrictions are placed upon gun-ownership in the USA, those politicians who vote for such laws, and those people who lobby & support such rules, should be killed.
    If the government errs too grievously for too long against our rights and liberties, it is our right and duty to do away with that government and construct for ourselves a government which will better adhere to and protect our rights and liberties.

    In short, if the government is doing nothing wrong, they have nothing to fear.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Are pro-2nd Amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    If the government errs too grievously for too long against our rights and liberties, it is our right and duty to do away with that government and construct for ourselves a government which will better adhere to and protect our rights and liberties.

    In short, if the government is doing nothing wrong, they have nothing to fear.
    and who gets to decide when they have erred too grievously?

    who gets to decide when govt. actions should be opposed via non-violent means, or the assassination of Senators?

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    Re: Are pro-2nd Amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    and who gets to decide when they have erred too grievously?

    who gets to decide when govt. actions should be opposed via non-violent means, or the assassination of Senators?
    The People aggregate. If the government acts improperly for too long, too many people will be driven to violence against it. If it can behave and keep those numbers down, it won't have to fear pissing off too many people and becoming a target.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Are pro-2nd Amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The People aggregate. If the government acts improperly for too long, too many people will be driven to violence against it. If it can behave and keep those numbers down, it won't have to fear pissing off too many people and becoming a target.
    a most excellent answer. One person declaring a rebellion is essentially the act of a lone wolf, a nutcase or an anarchist. ten million is a serious sign that the government needs to be torn down and rebuilt

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    Re: Are pro-2nd Amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The People aggregate. If the government acts improperly for too long, too many people will be driven to violence against it. If it can behave and keep those numbers down, it won't have to fear pissing off too many people and becoming a target.
    so, if 10,000 Truthers decide that the time has come to take out the "true 9-11 perps", and march to Congress to assassinate leading Senators, you would support them?

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    Re: Are pro-2nd Amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    so, if 10,000 Truthers decide that the time has come to take out the "true 9-11 perps", and march to Congress to assassinate leading Senators, you would support them?
    is it your goal to avoid the point of this thread and divert it with such questions?

    why don't you tell us YOUR position on the second amendment

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    Re: Are pro-2nd Amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    so, if 10,000 Truthers decide that the time has come to take out the "true 9-11 perps", and march to Congress to assassinate leading Senators, you would support them?
    If you aggregate up enough people to put forth an actual rebellion, then the government has obviously acted in a way to leave the aggregate with no other choice. Would I support any ol' revolt? No, it would depend on the how and why; which plays exactly into what I am saying. If enough people are pushed to the point in which they have no other choice than to revolt, and enough people can be garnered for a revolt; the revolt shall happen. The government should always ask itself when passing laws and enforcing them over us "Will this force the People to kill me?".

    10000 truther may try, but it's not enough to actually rebel and others such as myself would say that it's not a reason for rebellion and would not join in. If the cause is just and warranted, you will see the numbers and support necessary to carry out a revolt.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Are pro-2nd Amendment?

    The constitution strictly prohibits cutting off anyone's arms. Not even for the worst criminal offenses. In a few countries, there are various crimes for which arms can be cut off or indications that a child or person is a demon for which it is legal to cut off people's arms. All Americans have a constitution right to their arms in a literally strict interpretation. The constitution doesn't mention firearms or guns.

    Of course, those claiming "strict interpretation" don't mean literal. They mean THEIR interpretation.
    Last edited by joko104; 01-01-12 at 08:58 PM.

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    Re: Are pro-2nd Amendment?

    I believe in the peoples right to own firearms, banning guns would only hurt law abiding citizens because criminals won't follow the law.
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    Re: Are pro-2nd Amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    perhaps you should focus first on more peaceful & democratic ways of solving problems??

    its just a thought.
    An out of control government does not use “peaceful & democratic ways” of violating the rights of its citizens. It sends men armed with guns, to take by those by force and violence who will not submit to the demands of government. It locks such people in prisons.

    Violent crimes against the people require a violent response.
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