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    Re: Are pro-2nd Amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I don't like relative morality, and I see you promoting it (apologetically, nonetheless) sometimes. Don't take it personally, absolutes aside.
    It's a difference whether you condone what happens in a foreign country, or if you believe it's impossible/not feasible/not smart to interveen to change it, you know?

    This "relativism" meme has really poisoned American debate, it seems.
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    Re: Are pro-2nd Amendment?

    How you equate the issue of gun ownership to morality is beyond me. The US Constitution isn't a morality document.

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    Re: Are pro-2nd Amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    the 1st amendment and the rights it carries alone does not give you ability to kill or severely injure a dozen+ people with one clip.
    Not one clip, but you can certainly incite to riot. Hell in the 50's the anarchists openly preached revolt against the US government without being arrested (I think we need to go back to that). Every right can be abused. Given enough people, we will see it abused. Speech can be just as dangerous. The pen is mightier than the sword, yes?
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    Re: Are pro-2nd Amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    It's a difference whether you condone what happens in a foreign country, or if you believe it's impossible/not feasible/not smart to interveen to change it, you know?
    You were not referring to changing it, but to letting them decide.

    This "relativism" meme has really poisoned American debate, it seems.
    Your typical anti-US adhom.



    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    How you equate the issue of gun ownership to morality is beyond me.
    Self defense is a human right.
    Last edited by ecofarm; 01-05-12 at 01:33 PM.

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    Re: Are pro-2nd Amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Do you also believe that it is up to Insanians to decide what to do in Insania? What a cop-out... relative morality and all that. Don't judge me and I won't judge you = cowardice.
    Judge not that ye be not judged.
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    Re: Are pro-2nd Amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Not one clip, but you can certainly incite to riot. Hell in the 50's the anarchists openly preached revolt against the US government without being arrested (I think we need to go back to that). Every right can be abused. Given enough people, we will see it abused. Speech can be just as dangerous. The pen is mightier than the sword, yes?
    Speech can be more dangerous. A crazed man with a gun can only kill what he can get to, dictators historically have killed millions using rhetoric throughout the 1900s alone.
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    Re: Are pro-2nd Amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You were not referring to changing it, but to letting them decide.
    Yes. ON THE QUESTION OF GUN RIGHTS.

    You certainly won't me see claiming Americans should be free to decide to violate basic human rights, including women rights or oppressive government.

    Why do I still bother debating with that troll anyway? I don't know it.
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    Re: Are pro-2nd Amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Judge not that ye be not judged.
    Judge not unrighteously that ye not be judged so. As long as I judge righteously (objectively), then I've no fear of reciprical. Learn your script. Are you proposing that the Bible is anti-judge?
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    Re: Are pro-2nd Amendment?

    Iíve been thinking about this, but not reading the posts. My understanding is that the Supreme Court has decided that an individual is a militia. Kal'Stang, Baralis, Bob Blaylock, and coolwalker have come to know that Obama is the Greatest Traitor in U.S. History. And we all know what we should do with traitors. Also, Iím in AZ now, where we are having an anniversary of the attempted killing of an Obama Traitor that is informative of how effective the Supreme Courtís interpretation of militia can be. So this being the situation weíre in, who is going to do what the second amendment is intended for? Kal'Stang, Baralis, Bob Blaylock, or coolwalker maybe?

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    Re: Are pro-2nd Amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Judge not unrighteously that ye not be judged so. As long as I judge righteously (objectively), then I've no fear of reciprical. Learn your script. Are you proposing that the Bible is anti-judge?
    God will judge. Man is not righteous, and so can't judge righteously.
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