View Poll Results: What would it take to switch parties in a Federal election?

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    1 2.44%
  • Depends on candidate's view of Social Programs

    0 0%
  • Depends on candidate's view of Tax Structure

    1 2.44%
  • Depends on candidate's view of Military

    0 0%
  • Depends on candidate's view of Environment

    0 0%
  • Depends on candidate's view of World Affairs

    0 0%
  • It would take more than 1 big issue to sway me from my normal vote

    19 46.34%
  • I only vote for my party

    2 4.88%
  • I don't vote

    2 4.88%
  • You left a necessary choice out for me - I'll explain.

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    Re: Would you consider switching parties if...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Actually, it did more or less say that, and I've already pointed out exactly where it does. The intent of the Constitution would be to have those developments promoted by the PRIVATE sector.
    Then they would have never happened, at least not by us. We would not have gone to the moon. We would not have put up satellites. We would not have developed networking technology that lead to the Internet. We would be far behind where we are. All you've done is pointed to a section of the constitution and misinterpreted it. It does not say the government has no right to pursue new inventions. Fortunately for Americans, the Supreme Court hasn't gone with your misinterpretation, and our space program has thrived. NASA is one of the things that makes me most proud to be American. I think our country should be all about exploration, invention, and new scientific knowledge. It should not be about baseless wars against people who were never a threat to us. It shouldn't be about blaming the poor for being desperate enough to seek welfare. We should be leaders in increasing scientific knowledge, and leaders for using that knowledge to protect the environment. We are leaders in science, at least for now. We can keep it up if the right-wing extremist "defund the government" movement fails. For that extremism to fail, Americans need to reject the foolish misinterpretation of the constitution that you've alluded to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Don't count on that. You tell some of use we have to use a National Health Care system and we'll choose to opt out of medical care alltogher. In short order that would leave me BLIND; which is a better option than accepting government health care so far as I'm concerned.
    Germans are more healthy than we are and live longer, despite having health habits about as bad as ours. They're almost as fat as we are and they smoke a lot more, but are healthier thanks to their system of universal health care, which, btw, is a non-socialist solution. It's a Bizmarkian one.

    Universal health care is not always socialist. The one in England actually is. The one in Canada is a combination of socialism and free market. The ones in Germany and Switzerland are completely non-socialist.

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    Re: Would you consider switching parties if...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    Then they would have never happened, at least not by us. We would not have gone to the moon. We would not have put up satellites. We would not have developed networking technology that lead to the Internet. We would be far behind where we are. All you've done is pointed to a section of the constitution and misinterpreted it. It does not say the government has no right to pursue new inventions. Fortunately for Americans, the Supreme Court hasn't gone with your misinterpretation, and our space program has thrived. NASA is one of the things that makes me most proud to be American. I think our country should be all about exploration, invention, and new scientific knowledge. It should not be about baseless wars against people who were never a threat to us. It shouldn't be about blaming the poor for being desperate enough to seek welfare. We should be leaders in increasing scientific knowledge, and leaders for using that knowledge to protect the environment. We are leaders in science, at least for now. We can keep it up if the right-wing extremist "defund the government" movement fails. For that extremism to fail, Americans need to reject the foolish misinterpretation of the constitution that you've alluded to.
    You have to remember that I would PREFER to go backwards rather than forwards in time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    Germans are more healthy than we are and live longer, despite having health habits about as bad as ours. They're almost as fat as we are and they smoke a lot more, but are healthier thanks to their system of universal health care, which, btw, is a non-socialist solution. It's a Bizmarkian one.

    Universal health care is not always socialist. The one in England actually is. The one in Canada is a combination of socialism and free market. The ones in Germany and Switzerland are completely non-socialist.
    This isn't even about Socialism for me. It's about basic personal responsibility and my unwillingness to pay for the medical care of people who I'd rather see dead to begin with.

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    Re: Would you consider switching parties if...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
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    This isn't even about Socialism for me. It's about basic personal responsibility and my unwillingness to pay for the medical care of people who I'd rather see dead to begin with.
    Wow. I hope that's a sick joke and not what you really think. I don't want anyone to die due to lack of health care. I want everyone to pay into some kind of system in which everyone is covered and then for everyone to get the care that they need. That's responsibility enough for me. Everyone pays in unless it's somehow impossible for the person to pay (such as they're a child or they're handicapped). We're way stronger when we all take responsibility together like this rather than try to go it alone.

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    Re: Would you consider switching parties if...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    Wow. I hope that's a sick joke and not what you really think. I don't want anyone to die due to lack of health care. I want everyone to pay into some kind of system in which everyone is covered and then for everyone to get the care that they need. That's responsibility enough for me. Everyone pays in unless it's somehow impossible for the person to pay (such as they're a child or they're handicapped). We're way stronger when we all take responsibility together like this rather than try to go it alone.
    No, it's not a joke. I could possibly be talked into some sort of system if EVERYONE was required to pay into it.... No PAY, no PLAY. I'm sick and tired of seeing my money spent on people too stupid or lazy to do anything for themselves. If YOU want to waste your money on those people, so be it; but don't force me to.

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    Re: Would you consider switching parties if...?

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenvilleGrows View Post
    Would you consider voting for someone in a different party than you normally support during a Federal election? If so, what would it take?
    It took George W Bush.
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    Re: Would you consider switching parties if...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    No, it's not a joke. I could possibly be talked into some sort of system if EVERYONE was required to pay into it.... No PAY, no PLAY. I'm sick and tired of seeing my money spent on people too stupid or lazy to do anything for themselves. If YOU want to waste your money on those people, so be it; but don't force me to.
    Then there might be some common ground after all. I don't want anyone to be lazy and not pay into the system either. I agree on responsibility too. Everyone, with few exceptions, should have to pay and everyone gets covered. The exceptions should be people who simply cannot reasonably be expected to such as a person who's too handicapped or ill to be able to. For example, a person who's paralyzed from the neck down cannot reasonably be expected to work. Can we agree on that?

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    Re: Would you consider switching parties if...?

    It really depends on the candidate but if I disagree with them on one issue strongly, I'll vote for somebody else. Usually there are very few candidates I disagree with on a single issue, however there are some where one issue of disagreement is more than what I need to be turned off and vote for somebody else.
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    Re: Would you consider switching parties if...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Come on, the modern Republican party is just as much in love with big government as the Democrats. You have to remember that the modern Republican party was taken over by disenfranchised Southern Democrats who abandoned the party over issues like abortion and civil rights. We really have no conservative party in this country, it's the loony liberal left party and the whackjob religious party.

    Let me know when we have a conservative party at all.
    Well, I understand the sentiment, but I can't really say "the party" is one way or the other - Democrat or Republican. Both parties are made up of people - certainly "the establishment" is there, but other people circulate in and out and support the candidates. The former Southern Democrats don't want the California or New Hampshire Liberals telling them what to do anymore than the current Southern Republicans. Actual Democrats in the South still think Washington can fix everything, but the majority of people would rather keep their money in their own state. I'm pretty confident that the South doesn't want to force its views on the whole country. Do they want abortion to be legal - probably not! But, they're basically ok with it being legal in CA. And, in general, the northeast and west coast can keep their nutters to themselves. Mostly, people just don't want someone else's agenda shoved down their throat. Most Southern folks want their guns and Bibles. But, most of those figure Maine can do without both.
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    Re: Would you consider switching parties if...?

    Abortion may be a single issue for me. I could not vote for any candidate who wants the law to declare "life begins at conception." It is too radically extreme and shows a candidate too willing to kiss-ass radical far-rightwing religious zealots in general.

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    I would switch parties if the other had hotter chicks, better whiskey and a hot tub.

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