View Poll Results: What would it take to switch parties in a Federal election?

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  • Depends on candidate's view of Religious Right

    1 2.44%
  • Depends on candidate's view of Social Programs

    0 0%
  • Depends on candidate's view of Tax Structure

    1 2.44%
  • Depends on candidate's view of Military

    0 0%
  • Depends on candidate's view of Environment

    0 0%
  • Depends on candidate's view of World Affairs

    0 0%
  • It would take more than 1 big issue to sway me from my normal vote

    19 46.34%
  • I only vote for my party

    2 4.88%
  • I don't vote

    2 4.88%
  • You left a necessary choice out for me - I'll explain.

    16 39.02%
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    Re: Would you consider switching parties if...?

    Did you vote for Bush 43? He caused the greatest expansion of federal government in over 50 years. He started two unnecessary wars of occupation (on credit/off budget) while cutting taxes...never done before and incredibly stoooooooopid.
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    Re: Would you consider switching parties if...?

    What is "old"?
    We have seen the enemy and he is us.

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    Re: Would you consider switching parties if...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    His is a silly misinterpretation of the constitution. If that interpretation were correct, we would have to disband NASA and the national parks system since the constitution doesn't specifically permit those.
    I would suggest that NASA and a very large percentage of the Federal Government should be disbanded specifically for that reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    The founding fathers could not have anticipated everything that will be invented or problems we'll face. We have to decide those things for ourselves. When the constitution was written, universal health care had not even been invented yet. It didn't come around until Otto von Bismark did so in the 1870s.

    The issue is simply not addressed in the constitution. It's not even possible for it to have been addressed. That leaves it up to us, and no ridiculous misinterpretation of the constitution can change that.
    The lack of a specific mention in the Constitution means that a CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT is required to make any other action LEGAL. Amend the Constitution or get rid of the programs. That's my answer.

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    Re: Would you consider switching parties if...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Also, what do you have against my avatar?
    Are you kidding? I think your avatar is awesome! Clockwork Orange - let's watch The Wall next.
    The US is an odd ship. The captain yells out when he sees obtacles , but 535 individual propellers do the steering.

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    Re: Would you consider switching parties if...?

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenvilleGrows View Post
    Are you kidding? I think your avatar is awesome! Clockwork Orange - let's watch The Wall next.
    Actually, watched The Wall last night.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Would you consider switching parties if...?

    So far, I've heard a couple of folks who say their biggest hangup with the Republican party has to do with religion - and a little bit about social programs (healthcare and other). I haven't heard much categorically about the Democrat party, except, I guess the general feeling that they're based on larger Federal government.

    It's interesting to me that, in theory, Republicans could potentially have a smaller Federal Government if it could be proven that States could effectively handle own their religious issues and social program related issues to the satisfaction of the States' citizens. I'm not sure why the Federal government would be able to handle 50 states' worth of problems if a state can't handle it's own. I mean, economies of scale eventually have a greatly diminished return. A lot of our states are larger than a lot of countries.
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    Re: Would you consider switching parties if...?

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenvilleGrows View Post
    So far, I've heard a couple of folks who say their biggest hangup with the Republican party has to do with religion - and a little bit about social programs (healthcare and other). I haven't heard much categorically about the Democrat party, except, I guess the general feeling that they're based on larger Federal government.
    Come on, the modern Republican party is just as much in love with big government as the Democrats. You have to remember that the modern Republican party was taken over by disenfranchised Southern Democrats who abandoned the party over issues like abortion and civil rights. We really have no conservative party in this country, it's the loony liberal left party and the whackjob religious party.

    Let me know when we have a conservative party at all.
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    Re: Would you consider switching parties if...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I would suggest that NASA and a very large percentage of the Federal Government should be disbanded specifically for that reason.
    And thanks to your misinterpretation of the Constitution, we would be without wonderful technological advances resulting from NASA. Our space program is one of the things that makes America great. Without it, we would not have cell phones or satellite TV. Thanks to our wisdom to create a space program, we have scientific knowledge we would never have gotten by just looking up at the sky and guessing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    The lack of a specific mention in the Constitution means that a CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT is required to make any other action LEGAL. Amend the Constitution or get rid of the programs. That's my answer.
    And your answer is wrong. For your interpretation to be correct, the constitution would have to have said, "Things not yet invented should not be pursued or created by the Federal government." Fortunately, they had the wisdom not to include that. Fortunately, the Supreme Court has not used your ridiculous misinterpretation of the constitution. As a result, we have NASA and scientific advances, though which we've established ourselves as a great nation.

    I'm glad you were candid that you would disassemble something that's made us great. Now if we could just build a universal health care system, we could be far healthier.
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    Re: Would you consider switching parties if...?

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenvilleGrows View Post
    Are there any national Republican candidates you'd vote for this election? If not, is there a candidate you would've voted for if he had a better track record from a particular issue or if he'd distanced himself from a particular issue?
    Had Romney not changed his mind about what he believes so many times, he might have gotten my vote. He is just too much of an unknown for me to feel comfortable voting for him at this point.

    Huntsman looks promising, but I haven't really dug into his record as their is little chance I would have the chance to vote for him.

    I have been an adult voter for all of Newt and Santorum's career. I would never vote for them to be POTUS. I don't see either as being minimally qualified for the job.

    Bachmann, Perry and now defunct Cain were nutters IMO.

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    Re: Would you consider switching parties if...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    And your answer is wrong. For your interpretation to be correct, the constitution would have to have said, "Things not yet invented should not be pursued or created by the Federal government." Fortunately, they had the wisdom not to include that. Fortunately, the Supreme Court has not used your ridiculous misinterpretation of the constitution. As a result, we have NASA and scientific advances, though which we've established ourselves as a great nation.
    Actually, it did more or less say that, and I've already pointed out exactly where it does. The intent of the Constitution would be to have those developments promoted by the PRIVATE sector.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    I'm glad you were candid that you would disassemble something that's made us great. Now if we could just build a universal health care system, we could be far healthier.
    Don't count on that. You tell some of use we have to use a National Health Care system and we'll choose to opt out of medical care alltogher. In short order that would leave me BLIND; which is a better option than accepting government health care so far as I'm concerned.

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