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Thread: 2012: Bear, Bull, or Flat?

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    2012: Bear, Bull, or Flat?

    This time last year, everyone was falling over themselves to predict 3.5% growth in GDP. Now, here we are, with anemic growth and a flatlined S&P 500.

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    Next year: will the market recover? Flatline? or will we slip into a double dip?

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    Re: 2012: Bear, Bull, or Flat?

    Is it still a bear market when there's nothing left to lose? We're going to pull an Iceland.

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    Re: 2012: Bear, Bull, or Flat?

    I'm awaiting hyperinflation



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    Re: 2012: Bear, Bull, or Flat?

    Some bearish movements, some bullish movements, but overall I expect it to be quite flat with little growth
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    Re: 2012: Bear, Bull, or Flat?

    Hard to really categorize. The biggest problem is the economy is rudderless right now, some investors are going for the cash infused stimulus market, others are running because of the new regulations of Dodd/Frank, and people still don't know what else is coming so trading is all over the map. For that reason I have to go with flat, I think 2012 is going to be gains negated by loss pretty much the way 2011 shook out.
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    Re: 2012: Bear, Bull, or Flat?

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonxe View Post
    I'm awaiting hyperinflation
    You have no idea how badly I hope you are wrong. However if things continue hyperinflation is almost certain.
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    Re: 2012: Bear, Bull, or Flat?

    Bull!!

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    Re: 2012: Bear, Bull, or Flat?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Hard to really categorize. The biggest problem is the economy is rudderless right now, some investors are going for the cash infused stimulus market, others are running because of the new regulations of Dodd/Frank, and people still don't know what else is coming so trading is all over the map. For that reason I have to go with flat, I think 2012 is going to be gains negated by loss pretty much the way 2011 shook out.
    I agree. The so-called "experts" all say that with high percentage growth, renewed customer confidence, reducing bubbles, etc...., this year will be a good one, but then insert a bad week at the international markets, another meltdown at the eurozone, or debt trouble in the US and those same idiots will say that it is time for a double dip recession or even a depression.
    My god, no wonder the markets are so volatile
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    Re: 2012: Bear, Bull, or Flat?

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    I agree. The so-called "experts" all say that with high percentage growth, renewed customer confidence, reducing bubbles, etc...., this year will be a good one, but then insert a bad week at the international markets, another meltdown at the eurozone, or debt trouble in the US and those same idiots will say that it is time for a double dip recession or even a depression.
    My god, no wonder the markets are so volatile
    Exactly. First off, anyone could have warned against investing in European interests with the volatility of a gaggle of countries that hate each other sharing a common currency. Secondly, we have got to stabalize the dollar; I am not a fan of the current Federal Reserve system and have argued for a hybrid stocks/commodities/hard asset backed currency. The paper standard will never cut it. Third, regulations aren't horrible if they are done only where needed and properly applied, the current situation only serves to choke off the market.

    Another thing, I have a major problem with "self trade" sites like ScottTrade, E-Trade, etc. While I appreciate that they facilitate more entry into the market the problem is a lot of amateurs are in, they tend to panic more(not good) and are too close to their money. I've always said a broker is the best option, it may cost more but this is the guy who can say "don't trade yet, this stock will rebound" because they aren't the one risking. People who trade and handle their own stocks are likely to panic, with no one to talk them out of it or say "yeah, the stock is dry, dump it". Add that to the mix in a volatile market it's like a match to gasoline.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: 2012: Bear, Bull, or Flat?

    I think most of the bad has been shaken out, looking towards a low-moderate bull.
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