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    Re: Should the President have "line-item veto" power?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    It has been used, tested, and struck down:

    Line Item Veto Act of 1996 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Good info. To be fair, Mr Marrou's opinion stems from the 1992 Presidential election campaign, btw, prior to this.

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    Re: Should the President have "line-item veto" power?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Perhaps. But election year would put the blame where it belongs...on the President's desk. The bridge to nowhere could have cost the president his re-election.



    What compromise is there on a bridge to nowhere? (I particularly like that example, as everybody gets it.) Look, it's not working as it stands. How about a trial period? Ha!
    Pork spending is approximately 1% or less, of the total budget.

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    Re: Should the President have "line-item veto" power?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Good info. To be fair, Mr Marrou's opinion stems from the 1992 Presidential election campaign, btw, prior to this.
    Oh! That I did not know, thanks for clearing that up for me.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Should the President have "line-item veto" power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Pork spending is approximately 1% or less, of the total budget.

    Eliminating 100 Percent of Earmarks Cuts Federal Spending Less Than 0.5 Percent | CNSnews.com
    What's your point? 1/2% of our annual budget is....wait for it....$17 billion. Have we got better uses for $17 billion than bridges to nowhere?
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    Re: Should the President have "line-item veto" power?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    What's your point? 1/2% of our annual budget is....wait for it....$17 billion. Have we got better uses for $17 billion than bridges to nowhere?
    Not all porkbarrel spending is a bridge to nowhere.
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    Re: Should the President have "line-item veto" power?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Of course the US Code would have to change...and do I think it will happen? No. Snowbells in hell have a better chance of surviving and thriving than responsible government. Cant blame it all on the government though...it starts with the people that put them there.
    I agree that it starts with the people who put them there. What did Mencken say? "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

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    Re: Should the President have "line-item veto" power?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    What's your point? 1/2% of our annual budget is....wait for it....$17 billion. Have we got better uses for $17 billion than bridges to nowhere?
    Not speaking for Gina, I think the point is that giving the Presidency that much authority for the purpose of addressing 0.5% of the annual budget will have many unforeseen consequences. It's using a shotgun to kill a fly and being surprised when injuries result.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Should the President have "line-item veto" power?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Not speaking for Gina, I think the point is that giving the Presidency that much authority for the purpose of addressing 0.5% of the annual budget will have many unforeseen consequences. It's using a shotgun to kill a fly and being surprised when injuries result.
    Your reasoning gives me pause. I think there are many other examples, though, of bits and pieces of legislation being added to bills in order to pass them through blackmail. I'll have to do some homework. "You want this?? Then you're gunna get this, too!" Seems to me that's not a particularly fair or productive way to run a country...it certainly doesn't work in business. It's not as if a president would not be held absolutely accountable for his decisions...right now, he's not. And neither is Congress.
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    Re: Should the President have "line-item veto" power?

    No.
    They aren't quasi dictators, nor are they the legislature.

    I do believe that the legislative branch should only be able to write single issue bills though.
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    Re: Should the President have "line-item veto" power?

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Not all porkbarrel spending is a bridge to nowhere.
    CAGW is the source for information about pork-barrel spending. Since 1991, the annual Congressional Pig Book has provided the authoritative list of pork in the federal budget. A "pork" project is a line-item in an appropriations or authorization bill that designates funds for a specific purpose in circumvention of established budgetary procedures. To qualify as pork, a project must meet one of seven criteria that were developed in 1991 by CAGW and the Congresional Porkbusters Coalition.
    Here are the 7 criteria:

    •Requested by only one chamber of Congress;
    •Not specifically authorized;
    •Not competitively awarded;
    •Not requested by the President;
    •Greatly exceeds the President’s budget request or the previous year’s funding;
    •Not the subject of congressional hearings; or
    •Serves only a local or special interest.
    2010 saw $19.6 billion in pork as identified by above. For a complete list of "other bridges to nowhere," click here: 2010 Pig Book Summary
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