View Poll Results: Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offense?

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  • Yes,regardless if they can find a licensed driver to drive the vehicle home.

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  • They should never tow a unlicensed driver's vehicle.

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    Re: Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offen

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    please cite the court decisions which have given us the right to drive
    Where did he claim that we have a right to "drive"? All I see is a claim to a right to "travel"... I myself do not know the court cases he is referring to however this link discusses the idea of the right to travel and includes some case references which have been used to support the claim that U.S. Citizens have a general "Right to Travel".

    EDIT: Some specific judicial opinions:

    "The right of the citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city may prohibit at will, but a common right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Thompson v. Smith, 154 SE 179.

    "Undoubtedly the right of locomotion, the right to move from one place to another according to inclination, is an attribute of personal liberty, and the right, ordinarily, of free transit from or through the territory of any State is a right secured by the 14th amendment and by other provisions of the Constitution." Schactman v. Dulles, 96 App DC 287, 293.
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    Re: Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offen

    Quote Originally Posted by Swit View Post
    Where did he claim that we have a right to "drive"? All I see is a claim to a right to "travel"... I myself do not know the court cases he is referring to however this link discusses the idea of the right to travel and includes some case references which have been used to support the claim that U.S. Citizens have a general "Right to Travel".

    EDIT: Some specific judicial opinions:

    "The right of the citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city may prohibit at will, but a common right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Thompson v. Smith, 154 SE 179.

    "Undoubtedly the right of locomotion, the right to move from one place to another according to inclination, is an attribute of personal liberty, and the right, ordinarily, of free transit from or through the territory of any State is a right secured by the 14th amendment and by other provisions of the Constitution." Schactman v. Dulles, 96 App DC 287, 293.
    i will emphasize it for you
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    An officer on the side of the road is not due process…due process must happen before property is taken.
    I disagree…driving/traveling is my right. I have the right to travel all public highways. US Court decisions confirm this.
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    Re: Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offen

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i will emphasize it for you
    Ohh,,,, mea culpa... yes you are correct.... I missed that at first glance... serves me right for skimming.

    I still stand by his assertion of an implicit right to travel...... but NOT a right to drive.. I stand corrected sir, my most sincere of apologies.

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    Re: Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offen

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offense?

    Yes,but only if they can not find licensed driver to drive the vehicle home.
    Yes,regardless if they can find a licensed driver to drive the vehicle home.
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    I say yes regardless if they can find a licensed driver to drive the car home.They are driving without license,they should have their car towed when pulled over for a traffic offense.Just letting some other guy tow the car will just mean the individual will go back to driving unlicensed.
    yes the car should be impounded if that car belongs to that driver, plain and simple
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    Re: Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offen

    Yes. They do this in England and in many cases Australia and New Zealand. It is a GREAT idea.
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    Re: Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offen

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    This apparently happens to you a lot, James. I view it as a non-issue. If you are unlicensed and driving a vehicle with a licensed driver in the car, the licensed driver should be permitted to drive your car to your home or his/hers as agreed upon.

    What you seem to be suggesting is that by refusing a licensed passenger to drive the car, you would have the unlicensed driver punished in advance for something you THINK he/she will do in the future. That's draconian and rather big government of you.

    The car did not commit the offense the driver did.
    Yet that doesn't seem to work in the case of a gun crime... I wonder why?
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    Re: Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offen

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Towing the car is punishment, nothing more, nothing less. And this punishment is yet another proof that "innocent until proven guilty" is a myth in our society. We say it to make ourselves feel more superior to other societies, but when it comes time to walk the walk, it doesn't even register as a concern.
    I am seriously confused... even more than normal. If a person does not have a license and they are driving (illegally) then how are they not guilty?
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    Re: Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offen

    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    Like I give a flying #### about an unlicensed driver's feelings.
    You insensitive BASTARD!!





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    Re: Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offen

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    That's the best response you could come up with? Really?
    I think it goes along perfectly with your silly "they are victims" post, actually.

    If that were done, and the driver were not eventually convicted... who pays for the impound?
    Why would the car be impounded if the driver has insurance or a license?
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    Re: Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offen

    How about this scenario as a good reason why I highly disapprove of towing every "unlicensed" driver's car just because?

    Guy is driving his car, with licensed passenger, and they get pulled over for some minor infraction. Guy has valid license, but due to a case of identity fraud, it also shows up that he had a license suspended in another state (that he never lived in) because of a DUI. Now, the cops don't automatically accept that this guy has been a victim of identity fraud, but need to clear the case up. Passenger drives car until necessary legal measures are made to take care of identity fraud case and he can prove that his current driver's license is valid.

    This happened to someone I know how I described it. The idea given for this thread would have cost the person a lot of money for something that was not their fault.
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