View Poll Results: Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offense?

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    Re: Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offen

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
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    towing away a car that belongs to the person that broke the law is SINGULAR punishment, and expense is of no concern to me since that person broke the law
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    Thank you for proving me right.

    "since that person broke the law" shows you presume guilt as opposed to innocence. At the time of arrest they are only a suspect. It is up to the courts to determine guilt or innocence.

    your words: "towing away a car that belongs to the person that broke the law is SINGULAR punishment"
    Since you actually define the towing of the vehicle as a punishment against the driver. You are punishing them before they have a chance to defend themselves in court and that is the very definition of a violation of due process.

    In your reality it is apparent that people are guilty until proven innocent.
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    Re: Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offen

    This eternal nitpicking is getting beyond silly. You are stopped while driving a car, and have no licence to do so. You have been caught in the act. It's hard to imagine a scenario where anyone could be more evidently guilty. QED. The police are empowered to give fixed penalties for motoring offences such as this. One such "penalty" is having your car towed to prevent further offences from being committed. Apart from the poor likelihood that a licensed passenger is also insured to drive your car, allowing them to do so open up the possibility that you will switch places with them once the cops have left the scene. Towing ensures that the car and driver are both legal before they are reunited.
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    Re: Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offen

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Driving is a privelege, not a right. Unlicensed drivers have no business being on the road. They are unlicensed for a reason. Either they are too young to apply for a valid DL, they are too stupid to pass the tests for a valid DL, or their license has been suspended for cause. Whatever the reason, they are a danger to other drivers on the road.

    Yes, the vehicle should be towed, and the unlicensed driver should be immediately cited.
    You need to have a valid license to have insurance which means that if the friver is unlicensed, the car is uninsured even though the policy is paid.

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    Re: Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offen

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    vehicles driven by an unlicensed driver - and those driven by someone under the influence - should be held as evidence
    once the trial is concluded and the driver is found to have prevailed, then they get their vehicle back
    if they are found guilty, they get their car back after paying whatever fine is imposed
    The government does not own impound lots, they are private businesses.

    If the impound lot is charging $30.00 or more per day, how can a person reasonably get his car back if the case drags on for 6 months or more?

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    Re: Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offen

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    no
    the authorities would have to sell the vehicle at public auction
    proceeds remaining - if any - after cost of the sale and the payment of outstanding obligations would be returned to the former owner of the now sold vehicle
    If the owner requests the overage, which most people don't or don't know they can.

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    Re: Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offen

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    These people are poor to begin with and are made more poor by these charges..
    There must be another way that is fair, yet effective...
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    Re: Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offen

    Quote Originally Posted by Swit View Post
    Thank you for proving me right.

    "since that person broke the law" shows you presume guilt as opposed to innocence. At the time of arrest they are only a suspect. It is up to the courts to determine guilt or innocence.

    your words: "towing away a car that belongs to the person that broke the law is SINGULAR punishment"
    Since you actually define the towing of the vehicle as a punishment against the driver. You are punishing them before they have a chance to defend themselves in court and that is the very definition of a violation of due process.

    In your reality it is apparent that people are guilty until proven innocent.
    This is just silly. But I guess it started with defining towing the unlicensed driver's car as punishment. That's an unintended consequence of towing the car, isn't it? Inconvenience in the face of arrest. Too bad. And let me understand. In your world, an unlicensed driver should get a ticket for driving without a license and then be allowed to drive merrily away. After all, by your logic, he hasn't been found guilty yet. ??
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    Re: Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offen

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Apart from the poor likelihood that a licensed passenger is also insured to drive your car, allowing them to do so open up the possibility that you will switch places with them once the cops have left the scene. Towing ensures that the car and driver are both legal before they are reunited.
    I presume the driver will be sent to the police station, so I don't think that is a big worry.

    I don't know how common it is in America, but in most countries insurance cover anyone fully licensed that you allow to drive your car.

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    Re: Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offen

    Quote Originally Posted by Swit View Post
    Well, you are correct. It's not per se. But consider the situation where the unlicensed driver is not the registered owner of the vehicle in question. By summarily taking possession of the vehicle they could in fact be violating someone else's constitutionally protected right against unreasonable seizures, and there have in fact been cases filed against the city of Chicago regarding this very situation. I never followed up on them, so I cannot say how the courts ruled, if they even agreed to hear the case at all.

    Allowing an unlicensed driver to drive your car is a crime in many states.

    The owner of the car is responsible for what happens to his car and if the car is stopped with an unlicensed driver driving it, the owner has the option of saying that person stole the car, if not, the owner is responsible for the unlicensed drivers actions.

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    Re: Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offen

    Quote Originally Posted by Swit View Post
    My point was that teenagers often try to hide the fact that they have gotten in trouble from their parents. Here in Illinois, I believe 3 moving violations in a 12 month period can result in a suspension of a driver's license and only the driver gets notified... NOT their parents. Further I can envision a situation where a teenager in this situation may risk driving as opposed to admitting to their parents that their license is in fact suspended. THUS, the only absolute way a parent (or anyone for that matter) can actually KNOW unequivocally that someone is legal to drive is by obtaining a current abstract from the DMV. Sure... its definitely possible to do this each and every time you want to allow someone to borrow your car.... just unreasonable.
    With knowledge or not the parent is responsible for the actions of a 16 year old.

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