View Poll Results: Is Obama incompetent or lying?

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  • Incompetent. He can't do math, or he is just relying on the CNBC report.

    1 7.69%
  • Intentional. Obama is lying and hoping no one notices he is off by $834.

    5 38.46%
  • No, my math is wrong and you are going to prove it.

    7 53.85%
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    President can't do math. Intentional?

    After Congress caved in to Harry Reid changing the payroll tax extension from a full year to two months, Barack Obama parroted a math error first reported on CNBC.com that this payroll tax extension would save the average American family $1,000. That is wrong. The Republican bill would have saved the average family $1,000, but the Reid bill they passed will only save the average family $166.

    Obama said this on his facebook page:
    President Obama congratulates members of Congress for reaching an agreement to extend the payroll tax cut: "Because of this agreement, every working American will keep his or her tax cut—about $1,000 for the average family."

    In order for the average family to save $1,000, the average family would have to be making $25,000 a month. I don't make that kind of money. Maybe Obama does.

    So here is the question. They are taking credit for the results of the Republican bill, even though they shot it down and passed the much more anemic Democrat bill. Incompetence or intentionality?
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    Re: President can't do math. Intentional?

    If the bill would not have been passed then the payroll tax would have increased by $1000 for families making $50,000 a year and it went up by $500 every $25,000 a year earned. Please excuse me if it's $25,00 a year and not $50,000.

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    Re: President can't do math. Intentional?

    You think the President actually said that or calculated those numbers?

    He has a whole staff of people who do all his work for him - I doubt he has a clue about any of it.
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    Re: President can't do math. Intentional?

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    After Congress caved in to Harry Reid changing the payroll tax extension from a full year to two months, Barack Obama parroted a math error first reported on CNBC.com that this payroll tax extension would save the average American family $1,000. That is wrong. The Republican bill would have saved the average family $1,000, but the Reid bill they passed will only save the average family $166.

    Obama said this on his facebook page:
    President Obama congratulates members of Congress for reaching an agreement to extend the payroll tax cut: "Because of this agreement, every working American will keep his or her tax cut—about $1,000 for the average family."

    In order for the average family to save $1,000, the average family would have to be making $25,000 a month. I don't make that kind of money. Maybe Obama does.

    So here is the question. They are taking credit for the results of the Republican bill, even though they shot it down and passed the much more anemic Democrat bill. Incompetence or intentionality?
    This is the kind of thread that some republicans depend on to keep some of thier supporters from straying, I would say that the same 57% of registered republicans that thought that President Obama was not born in the UNted States would be the same group that thinks that President Obama would be talking about a 1000 dollar savings over two months and that same group would not bother to listen to or read a transcript of his speech. As I read the right wing chain e-mails I receive it is very apparent that the authors of these chain e-mails believe that old saying that if you throw enough s--t against the wall some of it will stick.

    The President states that the payroll tax cut will mean 40.00 a week to a family with an income of 50,000 per year

    Now, if you’re a family making about $50,000 a year, this is a tax cut that amounts to about $1,000 a year. That’s about 40 bucks out of every paycheck. It may be that there's some folks in the House who refuse to vote for this compromise because they don’t think that 40 bucks is a lot of money. But anyone who knows what it’s like to stretch a budget knows that at the end of the week, or the end of the month, $40 can make all the difference in the world
    Why with all of the things we could have an honest debate about do you want to spend time on this dribble? Do you really think the conservative base is so ignorant that they will not see this for what it is? Or is it that you have a problem with reading or hearing or maybe you can't do simply multiplication and or division

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    Re: President can't do math. Intentional?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    You think the President actually said that or calculated those numbers?

    He has a whole staff of people who do all his work for him - I doubt he has a clue about any of it.
    Well, there are all those pictures of him working the calculator.
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    Re: President can't do math. Intentional?

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    After Congress caved in to Harry Reid changing the payroll tax extension from a full year to two months, Barack Obama parroted a math error first reported on CNBC.com that this payroll tax extension would save the average American family $1,000. That is wrong. The Republican bill would have saved the average family $1,000, but the Reid bill they passed will only save the average family $166.

    Obama said this on his facebook page:
    President Obama congratulates members of Congress for reaching an agreement to extend the payroll tax cut: "Because of this agreement, every working American will keep his or her tax cut—about $1,000 for the average family."

    In order for the average family to save $1,000, the average family would have to be making $25,000 a month. I don't make that kind of money. Maybe Obama does.

    So here is the question. They are taking credit for the results of the Republican bill, even though they shot it down and passed the much more anemic Democrat bill. Incompetence or intentionality?
    You can document these claims? Dunno, but I trust his random numbers more than your random numbers.
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    Re: President can't do math. Intentional?

    no vote
    This problem has its roots in ignorance and fear.

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    Re: President can't do math. Intentional?

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    After Congress caved in to Harry Reid changing the payroll tax extension from a full year to two months, Barack Obama parroted a math error first reported on CNBC.com that this payroll tax extension would save the average American family $1,000. That is wrong. The Republican bill would have saved the average family $1,000, but the Reid bill they passed will only save the average family $166.

    Obama said this on his facebook page:
    President Obama congratulates members of Congress for reaching an agreement to extend the payroll tax cut: "Because of this agreement, every working American will keep his or her tax cut—about $1,000 for the average family."

    In order for the average family to save $1,000, the average family would have to be making $25,000 a month. I don't make that kind of money. Maybe Obama does.

    So here is the question. They are taking credit for the results of the Republican bill, even though they shot it down and passed the much more anemic Democrat bill. Incompetence or intentionality?
    It was an intentional lie. If BO's mouth is open, he's lying about something. The $1,000 savings was based on the payroll tax being lowered for an entire year........all that is being passed is a two month extension. As usual, the drive-by media and the liberal tools will cover The Chosen One by perpetuating his dishonesty. The first affirmative action president can not be allowed to fail.
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    Re: President can't do math. Intentional?

    it doesnt matter....if they are not going to make it permanant they need let it expire because it is nothing more than a political tool anyway,......let people get used to and extra $40 a month in their paycheck and then dangle the threat of losing it during an election year..............however, they better not start complaining that FICA is in trouble (or in deeper trouble) because it is underfunded due to 2 -3 years of payroll tax cuts

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    Re: President can't do math. Intentional?

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    After Congress caved in to Harry Reid changing the payroll tax extension from a full year to two months, Barack Obama parroted a math error first reported on CNBC.com that this payroll tax extension would save the average American family $1,000. That is wrong. The Republican bill would have saved the average family $1,000, but the Reid bill they passed will only save the average family $166.

    Obama said this on his facebook page:
    President Obama congratulates members of Congress for reaching an agreement to extend the payroll tax cut: "Because of this agreement, every working American will keep his or her tax cut—about $1,000 for the average family."

    In order for the average family to save $1,000, the average family would have to be making $25,000 a month. I don't make that kind of money. Maybe Obama does.

    So here is the question. They are taking credit for the results of the Republican bill, even though they shot it down and passed the much more anemic Democrat bill. Incompetence or intentionality?
    They are extrapolating it out to an year. Obviously they expect negotiations to pass a year long extension. This is thread is dumb and a waste of time.
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