View Poll Results: Is Obama incompetent or lying?

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  • Incompetent. He can't do math, or he is just relying on the CNBC report.

    1 7.69%
  • Intentional. Obama is lying and hoping no one notices he is off by $834.

    5 38.46%
  • No, my math is wrong and you are going to prove it.

    7 53.85%
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    Re: President can't do math. Intentional?

    Quote Originally Posted by fredmertz View Post
    same logic. different scenario. It's to show that the logic itself is faulty. Your idea is that on a scale of 1-10 of bad acts, Bush was 10. Obama is 9.9 (which is itself arguable). So what Obama does is justifiable because Bush was worse. It's absurd.
    Your putting words in my mouth, show me where I said and I quote from your reply
    Your idea is that on a scale of 1-10 of bad acts, Bush was 10. Obama is 9.9
    Now quote for me where I said that on a scale of 1-10 Bush is a 10 and Obama is a 9.9.

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    Re: President can't do math. Intentional?

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    Are you denying that he said this payroll tax cut extension would mean $1,000 per year for the average family? That's what he put on his facebook page, so maybe you are accusing him of cherrypicking? Hmmm.
    The only people you can BS are the 57% of the registered republican voters who thought President Obama was not born in the USA, You are so slick that anyone with an ounce of sense that can read and hear won't see right through you

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    Re: President can't do math. Intentional?

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    The only people you can BS are the 57% of the registered republican voters who thought President Obama was not born in the USA, You are so slick that anyone with an ounce of sense that can read and hear won't see right through you
    LOL, I'm not the one promising families that $160 will turn into $1,000. Who's slick?
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    Re: President can't do math. Intentional?

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Your putting words in my mouth, show me where I said and I quote from your reply Now quote for me where I said that on a scale of 1-10 Bush is a 10 and Obama is a 9.9.

    President Bush belongs in jail for misleading the people of the United States about the war in Iraq and should be remembered as the most inept President to ever hold the office of the Presidency for his total lack of knowledge about the American economy while he was in office
    I wasn't quoting you nor did I claim to be. I was representing what I thought your idea was in clearer terms so that you could see how absurd it was or so that you could clarify it for me. Instead you just make false accusations that I'm quoting you.

    Looking back on the conversation to give you actual quotes though, I believe their was a misunderstanding:


    Me: "Let's pretend that I'm a Bush supporter (which I am NOT. He is at the top of the list for doing the most damage to the GOP in history - that party needs to be reformatted NOW). So pretending I'm a typical repub "YEAH! IRAQ WAR! LET'S DO STUFF! 9/11 rhubarb rhubarb rhubarb " Does that make the decisions Obama is making more justified? I just don't see where you could possibly be coming from in pointing out Bush's flaws to justify Obama's. Pretty weak."

    You: "Lets see the money that President Bush borrowed from a foriegn country that we are presently engaged in an economic war with is certainly less justified then the money that President Obama wants to help the middle class and the working poor in America with. In answer to your partisan question yes it makes President Obama's decision more justified"

    You see... I believe you mean "more justified than Bush" instead of agreeing with me that he's 'more justified' [than he would have been if Bush hadn't been so bad]. That's not at all what I was saying. I could care less how he is relative to Bush. Because I don't like either of them. I meant exactly what I said. How is pointing out Bush's flaws justify Obama? the answer is obviously that it doesn't. You were simply arguing that Bush was worse, which is irrelevant. Now that I understand where you're coming from, speaking relative to Bush, I'd be happy to argue that point as well. If the the bar we give our future presidents is: be better than Bush, this country is already in hell.

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    Re: President can't do math. Intentional?

    Quote Originally Posted by fredmertz View Post
    I wasn't quoting you nor did I claim to be. I was representing what I thought your idea was in clearer terms so that you could see how absurd it was or so that you could clarify it for me. Instead you just make false accusations that I'm quoting you.

    Looking back on the conversation to give you actual quotes though, I believe their was a misunderstanding:


    Me: "Let's pretend that I'm a Bush supporter (which I am NOT. He is at the top of the list for doing the most damage to the GOP in history - that party needs to be reformatted NOW). So pretending I'm a typical repub "YEAH! IRAQ WAR! LET'S DO STUFF! 9/11 rhubarb rhubarb rhubarb " Does that make the decisions Obama is making more justified? I just don't see where you could possibly be coming from in pointing out Bush's flaws to justify Obama's. Pretty weak."

    You: "Lets see the money that President Bush borrowed from a foriegn country that we are presently engaged in an economic war with is certainly less justified then the money that President Obama wants to help the middle class and the working poor in America with. In answer to your partisan question yes it makes President Obama's decision more justified"

    You see... I believe you mean "more justified than Bush" instead of agreeing with me that he's 'more justified' [than he would have been if Bush hadn't been so bad]. That's not at all what I was saying. I could care less how he is relative to Bush. Because I don't like either of them. I meant exactly what I said. How is pointing out Bush's flaws justify Obama? the answer is obviously that it doesn't. You were simply arguing that Bush was worse, which is irrelevant. Now that I understand where you're coming from, speaking relative to Bush, I'd be happy to argue that point as well. If the the bar we give our future presidents is: be better than Bush, this country is already in hell.
    Bushes impact on America is irrelevent in your opinion, to me President Obama has no need to justify his desire to help the working middle class and poor. Now you may have a clearer idea of where I am coming from

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    Re: President can't do math. Intentional?

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Bushes impact on America is irrelevent in your opinion, to me President Obama has no need to justify his desire to help the working middle class and poor. Now you may have a clearer idea of where I am coming from
    Earlz, I believe you are being intentional now (or at least I hope so). Must I spell out W-O-R-D for word every point? Bush's* impact on America is irrelevant* when assessing OBAMA. You're argument that Bush was worse is irrelevant *TO THE DEBATE*

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    Re: President can't do math. Intentional?

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    It is NOT $1,000 a year for the average family any more than the Making Work Pay one time credit of $800 was $292,000 a year. The average family does not make $50,000 every two months. If he wanted to be able to announce that it would save the average American family $1,000 a year, he should have passed the Boehner extension that lasted a year.
    He was referring to savings per year. He has been saying the exact same thing since this started, and before when touting the tax cut. The fact you cannot see that is your fault, not his.
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    Re: President can't do math. Intentional?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    He was referring to savings per year. He has been saying the exact same thing since this started, and before when touting the tax cut. The fact you cannot see that is your fault, not his.
    The tax cut doesn't last a year. So he is wrong. It doesn't save $1,000 a year, it doesn't save $10,000 a decade. It saves $160. Saying that it saves $1,000 a year for the average family is a scheister accounting lie. Sorry, that's just the way it is.
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    Re: President can't do math. Intentional?

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    The tax cut doesn't last a year. So he is wrong. It doesn't save $1,000 a year, it doesn't save $10,000 a decade. It saves $160. Saying that it saves $1,000 a year for the average family is a scheister accounting lie. Sorry, that's just the way it is.
    And yet he was still talking about the savings per year. Sorry you cannot see that, but your desire to criticize is overriding your sense to understand.
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    Re: President can't do math. Intentional?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Wait, now conservatives are bashing Obama for supporting a tax cut?

    Just ****ing kill me now.
    . You called it a tax cut.
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