View Poll Results: Freedom vs Safety: Which do you value most?

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    35 62.50%
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    5 8.93%
  • About the same for each

    14 25.00%
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Thread: Freedom vs Safety

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    Re: Freedom vs Safety

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    There's a very simple way. Very small lead injections at the first sign of stupidity. Found to be 100% effective in ensuring they don't do it again, when properly applied.
    So now everyone is dead. Great job.

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    Re: Freedom vs Safety

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So now everyone is dead. Great job.
    Can't be any worse than what we have NOW, Henrin.

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    Re: Freedom vs Safety

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Who's talking about perceived safety, Ikari? I know the world is much safer the more of these idiots we take off the street. Take the OWS individuals (please!!!)... we'd all be a lot safer if they were locked up and the key thrown away.
    OWS? Please, they didn't really do that much against other people not in their camp. As a society we are no more safe with or without OWS. Perceived safety, here's you trying to throw away the right to assemble and protest because you perceive some increase in safety which isn't there.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Freedom vs Safety

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    There's a very simple way. Very small lead injections at the first sign of stupidity. Found to be 100% effective in ensuring they don't do it again, when properly applied.
    I find your arguments to be overall incredibly stupid, so will you go first and safe the rest of us? Please.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Freedom vs Safety

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Can't be any worse than what we have NOW, Henrin.
    You said at the first sign of being stupid. Considering that everyone is stupid once in a while you have to kill everyone including yourself.

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    Re: Freedom vs Safety

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    OWS? Please, they didn't really do that much against other people not in their camp. As a society we are no more safe with or without OWS. Perceived safety, here's you trying to throw away the right to assemble and protest because you perceive some increase in safety which isn't there.
    In the City of Boston alone they cost Taxpayers more than $2,000,000 in damages and other costs to deal with their ridiculous protest. That's $2 Million the City has to come up with from somewhere. Additionally, any number of their "actions" caused massive traffic and other commuter delays as they forced the closing of streets and the detouring of traffic. If nothing the FISCAL safety of these communities was reduced. Then you think about all the LEO's who spent their time at the Occupy Boston site rather than out doing their regular jobs.

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    Re: Freedom vs Safety

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You said at the first sign of being stupid. Considering that everyone is stupid once in a while you have to kill everyone including yourself.
    Yep, and at this point that's probably the best thing for this planet. The total extermination of the Human Race, which has proven that it has absolutely no value left to its existance.

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    Re: Freedom vs Safety

    anyone who thinks safety concerns can never be used to trump "freedom", is an Anarchist.

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    Re: Freedom vs Safety

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    anyone who thinks safety concerns can never be used to trump "freedom", is an Anarchist.
    Which you couldn't support earlier.

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    Re: Freedom vs Safety

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    In the City of Boston alone they cost Taxpayers more than $2,000,000 in damages and other costs to deal with their ridiculous protest. That's $2 Million the City has to come up with from somewhere. Additionally, any number of their "actions" caused massive traffic and other commuter delays as they forced the closing of streets and the detouring of traffic. If nothing the FISCAL safety of these communities was reduced. Then you think about all the LEO's who spent their time at the Occupy Boston site rather than out doing their regular jobs.
    It cost some money, that's not safety. Hell they cost us less than Bush/Obama have cost us on undeclared foreign wars.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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