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Thread: Is This a Libertarian Statement?

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    Is This a Libertarian Statement?

    On a scale of 1-10, 1 being, "Not at all" 10 being, "Completely" how would you rate this passage?


    Yes? But that's ...just life. It says nothing at all to the question of whether one should be peaceful; it only says anything to the question of whether being peaceful will, in a given case, pay Standard Oil dividends this side of the grave. It's been a commonplace of ethics for as long as men have wondered about decent behavior that sometimes doing the right thing will get you killed; that strongly suggests that on a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone decent drops to zero; but what of it? It's one thing to be realistic about the long-term prognosis; it's quite another to abandon the project - which really means abandoning it in favor of another project with no better long-term prognosis - on those grounds.


    If you need to, ask yourself what sorts of topics would convince you to respond "That's just life," to. For example, some people might consider learning by trial and error as "just life".

    This passage didn't come from a "trial and error" conversation, but I'm just asking you guys to think on your own instead of having me tell all the details.
    Last edited by Daktoria; 12-21-11 at 07:10 PM.

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    Re: Is This a Libertarian Statement?

    How does this get 30 views, 0 votes, and a 1 star rating?

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    Re: Is This a Libertarian Statement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    How does this get 30 views, 0 votes, and a 1 star rating?
    Because it makes no sense.

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    Re: Is This a Libertarian Statement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    Because it makes no sense.
    Removed content seldom makes sense.
    Try this with the Bible or our Constitution.
    Of course, the "content extractor" must do this to create confusion, intentionally.
    And, again, no vote!
    Last edited by earthworm; 12-23-11 at 12:51 PM.

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    Re: Is This a Libertarian Statement?

    I understand the 'statement'; but, it's a common thought of many. It indicates a process people that think some go through, esp., when they are young. It's not in particular libertarian, so a 1.

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    Re: Is This a Libertarian Statement?

    Add context, then I will answer. Also provide a link to the source of the comment. We have seen, time and again, that people can pull sometimes extended phrases out of context and create an entirely inaccurate view.
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    Re: Is This a Libertarian Statement?

    I have to say this is rather disappointing. It implies people can only read for context and not for structure. What the topic was isn't really relevant. The tone still comes across.

    The quote comes from another political forum, so I'd rather not link it. That said, the topic at hand was cultural imperialism. We were discussing where the line is drawn on aggression and why freedom of speech is tolerated. Freedom of speech is supposedly tolerated because while it is ever so marginally aggressive, the overwhelming majority of society is rugged enough to deal with it.

    Those who are sensitive are condemned for the sake of letting things happen. Besides, the sensitive can't stand up for themselves anyway, so nobody sees a reason to care.

    That's just life.

    In referring to survival rate, this libertarian was talking about how considerate people who refrain from public communication become extinct.

    Likewise, in referring to projects, he was talking about how society might sacrifice the long term in refusing to accommodate/assimilate the sensitive, but how that long term sacrifice doesn't mean inconsiderate people can't live for the moment in ignoring the sensitive.

    Frankly, I didn't find this pragmatism to be libertarian at all because it implies that boundaries can be violated if society doesn't care about them being too weak. It begs the question on the non-aggression principle.
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    Re: Is This a Libertarian Statement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    I have to say this is rather disappointing. It implies people can only read for context and not for structure. What the topic was isn't really relevant. The tone still comes across.

    The quote comes from another political forum, so I'd rather not link it. That said, the topic at hand was cultural imperialism. We were discussing where the line is drawn on aggression and why freedom of speech is tolerated. Freedom of speech is supposedly tolerated because while it is ever so marginally aggressive, the overwhelming majority of society is rugged enough to deal with it.

    Those who are sensitive are condemned for the sake of letting things happen. Besides, the sensitive can't stand up for themselves anyway, so nobody sees a reason to care.

    That's just life.

    In referring to survival rate, this libertarian was talking about how considerate people who refrain from public communication become extinct.

    Likewise, in referring to projects, he was talking about how society might sacrifice the long term in refusing to accommodate/assimilate the sensitive, but how that long term sacrifice doesn't mean inconsiderate people can't live for the moment in ignoring the sensitive.

    Frankly, I didn't find this pragmatism to be libertarian at all because it implies that boundaries can be violated if society doesn't care about them being too weak. It begs the question on the non-aggression principle.
    Either you're saying something so far above me that it's blowing through my ears like the breeze or it's disjointed nonsense. Can you put this in layman terms or extrapolate the conclusion?

    It sounds like something with no answer, until a solution is given like, "we know the sound of two hands clapping but what is the sound of one hand clapping"? Then someone slaps you in the face and you realize that's the sound of one hand clapping.

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    Re: Is This a Libertarian Statement?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Either you're saying something so far above me that it's blowing through my ears like the breeze or it's disjointed nonsense. Can you put this in layman terms or extrapolate the conclusion?
    Define: violence.

    The only difference between having a rock thrown at you versus having air molecules vibrated against your eardrums is one is a lot weaker than the other.

    Furthermore, sensitive people can't help but interpret every sound they hear. These people are condemned into a society of distraction where they're never entitled to freedom of association because their peace of mind is always violated.

    The same thing can apply to sight, smell, or touch. People don't consent to be stimulated, so even free speech can be interpreted as aggression.

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    Re: Is This a Libertarian Statement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    How does this get 30 views, 0 votes, and a 1 star rating?
    The grammar relays no interrogatives worthy of response.

    In other words, what's the point?

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