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Thread: Is This a Libertarian Statement?

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    Re: Is This a Libertarian Statement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Define: violence.

    The only difference between having a rock thrown at you versus having air molecules vibrated against your eardrums is one is a lot weaker than the other.

    Furthermore, sensitive people can't help but interpret every sound they hear. These people are condemned into a society of distraction where they're never entitled to freedom of association because their peace of mind is always violated.

    The same thing can apply to sight, smell, or touch. People don't consent to be stimulated, so even free speech can be interpreted as aggression.
    Alright I'll give that some credence.

    Unfortunately, I've actually become over sensitive to certain harsh realities of everyday life, like the slaughter of animals for food, people physically and mentally suffering, the losses we all anguish over. I have to live with the bombardment of these certainties everyday and still find purpose and joy in daily living because "that's life". There is a methodology that allows some peace for those who are over sensitive to aggressive speech. "Keep it simple" and "focus on the positive" are the one, two punch for a complicated mind that finds the free activity of life and others over stimulating. There will always be effort in life for as long as we strive to exist. People must be allowed the freedom to expand and grow beyond our ignorance, such is the very nature of the universe. You can become a monk at some distant monastery to contemplate the meaning of stillness or dirt, BORING.

    I would rather look for solutions rather than dwelling on the endless possibilities, which is "Non Gradus Anus Rodentum".

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    Re: Is This a Libertarian Statement?

    I think this is in the same league as "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?"





    43,152 is the correct answer, by the way.
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    Re: Is This a Libertarian Statement?

    What is the quote in context to?
    Know the truth and the truth will make you mad, because the truth has no agenda.

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    Re: Is This a Libertarian Statement?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Alright I'll give that some credence.

    Unfortunately, I've actually become over sensitive to certain harsh realities of everyday life, like the slaughter of animals for food, people physically and mentally suffering, the losses we all anguish over. I have to live with the bombardment of these certainties everyday and still find purpose and joy in daily living because "that's life". There is a methodology that allows some peace for those who are over sensitive to aggressive speech. "Keep it simple" and "focus on the positive" are the one, two punch for a complicated mind that finds the free activity of life and others over stimulating. There will always be effort in life for as long as we strive to exist. People must be allowed the freedom to expand and grow beyond our ignorance, such is the very nature of the universe. You can become a monk at some distant monastery to contemplate the meaning of stillness or dirt, BORING.

    I would rather look for solutions rather than dwelling on the endless possibilities, which is "Non Gradus Anus Rodentum".

    Two things.

    One, it doesn't make much sense to encourage problem solving while encouraging a simple take on life.

    Two, the real question is about who's to define which problems people can solve. An insensitive take on stimulation disallows people from solving more sensitive problems unless they're insulated by security, but why must people afford insulation in order to solve what they want?

    How can people be allowed to throw paint around and obligate others to build fences to prevent from being splashed? Throwing paint requires rational thought, yet throwing paint onto someone else would inhibit another's rational thought. Furthermore, demanding that others insulate themselves would culturally imperialize another's rational thought.

    The same logic can be applied to light and sound since they also cross physical mediums.
    Last edited by Daktoria; 12-28-11 at 09:12 AM.

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    Re: Is This a Libertarian Statement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Two things.

    One, it doesn't make much sense to encourage problem solving while encouraging a simple take on life.
    Why can't you have simple problem solving for life? Too many times people miss the forest through the trees for no other reason than ego. To be, or not to to be? How much simpler a question?
    I saw an episode of the old TV show "Kung Fu" where the student ask the master "Why did your friend kill himself"? The master replied "while many look into this valley and see the beauty of life and nature he saw only ugliness and could not bare it." The student replied "master why would he look into the darkness when there is the light"? And the master said "we may never know these things for such is choice." Is the glass half empty or half full, only each individual can make that determination.

    Two, the real question is about who's to define which problems people can solve. An insensitive take on stimulation disallows people from solving more sensitive problems unless they're insulated by security, but why must people afford insulation in order to solve what they want?
    Insensitive or realistic? This question says "your only problem is that you have no problem." Though there is no real problem because you perceive one it is definitely real to you. The trick is to learn desensitization in order to function on a simpler and higher level. A highly effective method for therapists is to offer relief for phobias by repeated stimulation of said fear, till the patient realizes the fear is unfounded. It's similar to being severely sensitive to negative stimulation. It takes practice to dial the input level down and the only security is wisdom and experience against the folly of others.

    How can people be allowed to throw paint around and obligate others to build fences to prevent from being splashed? Throwing paint requires rational thought, yet throwing paint onto someone else would inhibit another's rational thought. Furthermore, demanding that others insulate themselves would culturally imperialize another's rational thought.

    The same logic can be applied to light and sound since they also cross physical mediums.
    Now you speak of "freedom" or "free will". This is a fundamental concept of life itself that all living things need the space to express their nature and grow. Part of free will is the ability for someone else to invade your boundaries and encroach on your space. Over time you'll learn that true freedom does not exist beyond your mind and that only in your thoughts are we truly free. This is the place where slavery lives in the form of stubborn ignorance, not in the body. It's THE truth that all inmates must learn in order to survive the internment that the limited body places on the soul. To embrace the truth of "free will" is to break down the walls of fear and pride that emote from a sense of only self. Patience, forbearance and caring are the great weapons of preservation not intolerance, violence or effrontery.

    The force is strong with you young padawan, now leave the dark side and see that the true light of life is the happy cookie of your mind

    Other words have a little fun and learn to laugh at yourself. It takes a lot of burden off your shoulders when you see we're only a small piece of the big puzzle.

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