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    Re: Should White Supremacists be allowed to speak on forums/etc?

    19 say that the white supremacists deserve "general respect" ???
    Our nation is in trouble !
    Are these "people" known ?
    And their supporters ?

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    Re: Should White Supremacists be allowed to speak on forums/etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    I used to be of the opinion that even white supremacist speech should be allowed on forums on the internet, but I've changed my mind. The internet is a different animal. There aren't really very many white supremacists in real life, but when a place on the internet starts permitting hate speech they infest it like there is no tomorrow. Politicalforum.com decided to permit hate speech for all the high minded reasons about free speech and whatnot and look what happened to them. Like 60% of the posters there are white supremacists now and most the normal people had to leave because you couldn't have a discussion about anything without white supremacists spamming it to death with off topic hate speech. In my opinion, the quality of discussion on PF way back when was actually higher than it is here, but now it's just a sewer for white hate over there. Any forum that places no limits on white supremacist hate speech eventually just turns into a stormfront.

    To be clear, I fully support free speech and would strongly oppose the government forbidding racist speech or something. But a discussion forum is a private community. The people who run the site are well within their rights to keep the most disruptive, counter productive, elements out in order to preserve a higher quality of discussion.
    We can never have 100% "free speech" when there are so many "haters" around...
    They can ruin one forum, but another one can replace it and on and on.....
    Hopefully, over time, the haters will die out...

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    Re: Should White Supremacists be allowed to speak on forums/etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by Graffias View Post
    Unless they're violating the rules, they should be allowed freedom of speech. They should also be respected. White supremacists are entitled to an opinion just like everyone else. I've never understood why people can't have cordial and civilized discussions in spite of being diametrically opposed to another person's point of view.
    Nor can I.
    I think it has something to do with intellectual capacity.

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    Re: Should White Supremacists be allowed to speak on forums/etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    The real question is, should a black supremest be allowed to be POTUS? " White mans greed leads to a world in need".
    A true statement, IMO.
    But better presented as " mans greed leads to others need."
    And, "man" must learn that his hate will lead to other men hating.....
    Elementary, but above the head of so many...

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    Re: Should White Supremacists be allowed to speak on forums/etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    19 say that the white supremacists deserve "general respect" ???
    Our nation is in trouble !
    Are these "people" known ?
    And their supporters ?
    Ten of them are.

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    Re: Should White Supremacists be allowed to speak on forums/etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    19 say that the white supremacists deserve "general respect" ???
    Our nation is in trouble !
    Are these "people" known ?
    And their supporters ?
    Everyone deserves a voice, even you.

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    Re: Should White Supremacists be allowed to speak on forums/etc?

    Personally, I think that they should be allowed on forums and they should be respected. Of course, they should get banned / warned for making blatantly racist or bigoted statements. They should be required to conduct themselves in a civil manner, just as everyone else should. If they can't handle that, then maybe the forum isn't the right place for them.

    Also, I am curious as to why the OP only included white supremacists. Shouldn't race supremacy be frowned upon in general, regardless of the race(s) that it is aimed on?

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    Re: Should White Supremacists be allowed to speak on forums/etc?

    Should they be heard? If they own the website? Certainly. Should they be allowed to speak on a public venue? Certainly. Should they be allowed to be heard on a private forum? Up to the forum.

    As for respect? **** em'. Why would I give respect to someone who is so stupid they think "because of race" they are somehow superior to someone else? Or race is responsible for all the problems in their lives etc. Sorry, I would no more give them respect than an ignorant ass who thinks the government owes them a living etc.
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    Re: Should White Supremacists be allowed to speak on forums/etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Should they be heard? If they own the website? Certainly. Should they be allowed to speak on a public venue? Certainly. Should they be allowed to be heard on a private forum? Up to the forum.

    As for respect? **** em'. Why would I give respect to someone who is so stupid they think "because of race" they are somehow superior to someone else? Or race is responsible for all the problems in their lives etc. Sorry, I would no more give them respect than an ignorant ass who thinks the government owes them a living etc.
    I pretty much agree with this exactly

    Speak/march? Yes in most cases, not all
    post on a public forum? yes (rules apply to all and if violated they get the boot)
    post on a private forum? Totally up to that forum
    Respect? define respect, will I just start randomly attacking them? of course not, but respect above a basic cordial level is EARNED not given. If some one would think im less then them because I am guy/girl, straight/gay, white/black, tall/short, christian/muslim **** THEM lol they don't DESERVE respect for such nonsense. And obviously have no respect for me. Again can I be general cordial? of course anything above that is a joke.
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    Re: Should White Supremacists be allowed to speak on forums/etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by Graffias View Post
    Unless they're violating the rules, they should be allowed freedom of speech. They should also be respected. White supremacists are entitled to an opinion just like everyone else. I've never understood why people can't have cordial and civilized discussions in spite of being diametrically opposed to another person's point of view.

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    Nor can I.
    I think it has something to do with intellectual capacity.

    just so I understand, I agree that a BASIC level of respect should be the "initial" approach, "cordial" has the first quote says but after that why is anything else deserved??? Respect is EARNED above that not given.

    If you are a woman and I think women and nothing but baby factories, kitchen/bathroom cleaners and food makers tell me what is "cordial" about that? and why I would ever expect to be "respected" by women or people in general since I obviously have no respect for them?
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