View Poll Results: Should white supremacists be allowed to speak on forums/etc?

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    Re: Should White Supremacists be allowed to speak on forums/etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    They should be allowed to speak on a forum (unless, of course, they call for crimes, such as murder on an individual or an entire ethnic group -- but I believe that would violate the board policies anyway). But they don't deserve respect. Their ideology is extremely disrespectful towards many people, offensive, so I don't see they deserve a different treatment, until they become respectful too (which would require giving up their ideology in this case).

    The same for communists of a violent variety: Stalinists, Maoists, Castroists or Pol Pot fans don't deserve respect either.

    Liberals, social liberals, social democrats or democratic socialists, who clearly reject socialist dictatorships as the abovementioned, though, do deserve respect. It's become fashionable among certain right-wing circles to smear those kind of people with totalitarist communism, which is pathetic. By the same logic, you could smear Republicans with the accusation of fascism or Nazism.
    Communists, socialists, and marxists of any of the above mentioned varieties never openly promote violence or totalitarianism although they will invariably become a necessary evil to silence dissent and control the masses as they inevitibly discover the people's utopia they have been promised is an unsustainable system of poverty and oppression for the proletariat.

    Socialism leads to communism leads to totalitarianism___!00+ million dead dissenters would attest to this had they survived this cold and merciless ideology.
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    Re: Should White Supremacists be allowed to speak on forums/etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    White Supremacists have the right to be heard, and the rest of us have the right to condemn their vile & pathological hatred.
    Yes, they have a right to be heard, Just like the far left or right and we have a right to condemn the extreme politics of all groups.
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    Re: Should White Supremacists be allowed to speak on forums/etc?

    Respect doesn't enter into it. They have the same right to free speech as anyone else. Of course, on private forums, the owners of the forum make the decisions who can post and who cannot, but in general, everyone has the same rights, no matter how much you might dislike what they have to say.
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    Re: Should White Supremacists be allowed to speak on forums/etc?

    I have a real problem with the term, "RIGHT TO BE HEARD".

    There are rules and/or guideline created by the owners of this forum. It doesn't discriminate. Rules allow people to participate as contributors to this forum as long as the stay within the boundaries of the rule.

    I would wager that you'll not find anywhere in the rules that says that a member/nonmember has the "right to be heard". They have a right to express their views or opinions as long as it is within the confines of the rule. HOWEVER...they can't force anybody to read those views or opinions even if the conform to the rule.

    I would have to assume that any member that makes comments about committing violence against another for any reason would be removed. If any member's sole purpose for participating in this forum was to criticize or intimidate another for any immutable characteristic that he or she might have...would be removed.

    Freedom of speech isn't protected in forum. And even under rights of freedom of speech...."WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE HEARD".

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    Re: Should White Supremacists be allowed to speak on forums/etc?

    Did you really start a poll asking if RACIST should get respect? Anybody that would ask that does not deserve respect and the racist damn sure do not. Disgusting
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    Re: Should White Supremacists be allowed to speak on forums/etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Although the options could have been better worded, I selected "Yes, and they deserve general respect (to be heard)" because of the (to be heard) addition.

    I have no respect for anyone whose opinions are based on hate, but I will never know their motivation if they are denied the opportunity to present their case.

    I even support the right of communists to to be heard even though they are responsible for more murders, suffering and oppression than any group in the history of the human race.

    Just curious, are White Supremacists not permitted to post here at Debate Politics?
    You are still here so that would be a NO! White hateful racist are fine as long as they follow the rules.
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    Re: Should White Supremacists be allowed to speak on forums/etc?

    Sure, let them post.

    As long as they aren't making racist comments and following the other rules of the forum everything should go over well. If they cause trouble on the forum, well, that's what moderators are for

    Edit: I am extremely tolerant, just about the opposite of a racist. Just answering the question in a logical manner. Allowing them to post does not mean people have to respect what they say, that is for the individual to decide.
    Last edited by _____; 12-21-11 at 03:02 AM.

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    Re: Should White Supremacists be allowed to speak on forums/etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    You are still here so that would be a NO! White hateful racist are fine as long as they follow the rules.
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    Re: Should White Supremacists be allowed to speak on forums/etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Did you really start a poll asking if RACIST should get respect? Anybody that would ask that does not deserve respect and the racist damn sure do not. Disgusting
    The general respect of being allowed to be heard, as the rest of us are allowed. Emotionally-charged drivel aside, I will ask such questions that make people think.

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    Re: Should White Supremacists be allowed to speak on forums/etc?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    you have to understand that there has never really been a communist system that was actually communist -
    Does the absence of a completely free market stop you from denouncing a completely free market? Whatever the hell communism is or wishes to be, I denounce it entirely as unethical and contrary to human action and motivation.

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