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  • I am impartial to theocracies

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    Do you support theocracies?

    Why or why not?

    Which ones do you / would you support?
    Which are you / would you be against?


    Edit: Also, how do you feel theocracies should be dealt with (or not dealt with) by the international community? Feel free to give real or hypothetical situations to explain your view.
    Last edited by Jucon; 12-19-11 at 02:30 AM.
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    Re: Do you support theocracies?

    Are you talking about theocracies that currently exist or the concept of a theocratic government?
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    Re: Do you support theocracies?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Are you talking about theocracies that currently exist or the concept of a theocratic government?
    Both. The concept of and implementation of theocracies.


    Personally, I am against almost all theocracies. There are few cases where an entire population holds the same religion. It can easily lead to portions of the population being suppressed or having a lack of voice in their government.
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    Re: Do you support theocracies?

    A theocracy would be fine if the greater power it was based on was actually around and governing. Otherwise all you have are people who are either lying, or hearing voices, claiming some spiritual source to justify their decisions. Theocracies are, at their heart, based on a lie.

    Actually, more often than no, a theocracy is just an aristocracy with slightly different trappings. A priest class that is supreme in a theocracy often comes from a specific subset of the citizenry. Those not born into the special caste seldom find their way into it. It's just one of many systems to ensure that wealth and power stay concentrated among a few people, who then pass it down to their descendants. Inherited, stagnant, hereditary power and wealth. A theocracy is just like a monarchy, or an aristocracy, or American capitalism.
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    Re: Do you support theocracies?

    No, I think governments should be based on logic, not mysticism. It hasn't seemed to work out all that well in implementation either.
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    Re: Do you support theocracies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    A theocracy would be fine if the greater power it was based on was actually around and governing. Otherwise all you have are people who are either lying, or hearing voices, claiming some spiritual source to justify their decisions. Theocracies are, at their heart, based on a lie.

    Actually, more often than no, a theocracy is just an aristocracy with slightly different trappings. A priest class that is supreme in a theocracy often comes from a specific subset of the citizenry. Those not born into the special caste seldom find their way into it. It's just one of many systems to ensure that wealth and power stay concentrated among a few people, who then pass it down to their descendants. Inherited, stagnant, hereditary power and wealth. A theocracy is just like a monarchy, or an aristocracy, or American capitalism.
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    Re: Do you support theocracies?

    .... I don't get it...

    What do you mean by "supporting"? I don't support anybody's government other than my own. Obviously I don't support my government being a theocracy. However, I don't really have a real opinion about theocracies in countries that I don't live in. Sure, they're ****ty and backwards as ****, but I neither support or oppose them. That's up to the living under them to decide. You question is just a little hard to understand.
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    Re: Do you support theocracies?

    As this is the season for thinking about "peace on Earth, good will to men"...

    Until Jesus of Nazareth returns to the Earth to establish the kingdom of God, I cannot support any theocracy because, being led and administered by men, it will be corrupted and abused by them. A man-made theocracy is a recipe for disaster. Upon Jesus' Second Coming, He will put into place the administration of world government necessary to properly carry out its function and at that time I will happily embrace theocracy as the best form of government. Prior to Christ's divine intervention, however, I will continue to advocate for a constitutional republic as the best form of government yet devised by the minds of men. It best accounts for the present fallen state of the human condition and is best suited to mitigating the exigencies thereof.

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    Re: Do you support theocracies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackstone View Post
    As this is the season for thinking about "peace on Earth, good will to men"...

    Until Jesus of Nazareth returns to the Earth to establish the kingdom of God, I cannot support any theocracy because, being led and administered by men, it will be corrupted and abused by them. A man-made theocracy is a recipe for disaster. Upon Jesus' Second Coming, He will put into place the administration of world government necessary to properly carry out its function and at that time I will happily embrace theocracy as the best form of government. Prior to Christ's divine intervention, however, I will continue to advocate for a constitutional republic as the best form of government yet devised by the minds of men. It best accounts for the present fallen state of the human condition and is best suited to mitigating the exigencies thereof.
    Not doubting your guy's return there but any ideas on when he'll get around to establishing that world government? I mean, we're getting a little crowded down here being 7 billion and all.
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    Re: Do you support theocracies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Not doubting your guy's return there but any ideas on when he'll get around to establishing that world government? I mean, we're getting a little crowded down here being 7 billion and all.
    LOL - but I can drive for 2 hours through the woods and not see a single soul. . . there's room! If they want to move.
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