edit: for the record, I'm not a particular fan of the second Iraq invasion. Primarily for timing reasons, I do believe Saddam being removed from power was a benefit to the entire world.
- Colonel Paul YinglingNobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.
Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.
All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
B-52's carry troops. They crossed into North Vietnam. You lose. It's over. Now... will you just answer the damn question.Originally Posted by apdst
we never crossed troops into North Vietnam.
Originally Posted by Bodhisattva
What were those B-52s doing then?