View Poll Results: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, *YOU* are arguing about the legality of it because the truth is not on your side.

    I brought up OJ and abortion to prove that even you don't believe the argument that you're using in this thread.
    I didn't bring up that it was proven illegal...which it has not been.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Then why care if the occasional innocent man dies in the electric chair, right?
    Non-sequitor much?



    Legally, yep
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    Nice job dodging the question by adding words to it.

    Maybe next time, you'll give an honest answer to the question that was actually asked, and not the one you wished you were asked




    You're getting me mixed up with someone else. I've never argued the definition of person. All I've argued is that it doesn't matter.
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    And of course, you make dishonest claims about the definition of the word "person" in order to have an argument
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I didn't bring up that it was proven illegal...which it has not been.
    Again, it was you who argued about the legality of it because you can't argue the truth of it.

    And again, while you are arguing (only in this thread) that since it wasn't proven illegal in a court of law, it wasn't illegal, it's obvious that even you don't believe that argument, because you have argued that the courts have been wrong about many things in other threads.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Non-sequitor much?
    It follows...your kangaroo court is absurd.

    Nice job dodging the question by adding words to it.
    That's not a dodge, he's innocent until proven guilty. He was not proven guilty, so he's innocent.

    Maybe next time, you'll give an honest answer to the question that was actually asked, and not the one you wished you were asked
    I gave an honest answer last time, just not the one you wanted to hear.

    No, you've never argued the definition of person
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    And of course, you make dishonest claims about the definition of the word "person" in order to have an argument
    I've never disputed the definition of person.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Again, it was you who argued about the legality of it because you can't argue the truth of it.
    No, it was being claimed illegal and I disputed that. I didn't start that.

    And again, while you are arguing (only in this thread) that since it wasn't proven illegal in a court of law, it wasn't illegal, it's obvious that even you don't believe that argument, because you have argued that the courts have been wrong about many things in other threads.
    It doesn't matter if the courts have been wrong in other cases. The charge of an illegal invasion has never been brought to an international court or brought before the UN. It's just conjecture.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    No we don't need a court to know something is wrong, and you can also read the resolutions that imply it was legal. Hell, it being legal still wouldn't make it "right".
    Really, no, you can't. Not honestly. Sure, someone will try to convince you of that, but it would be a disahonest effort. We did not have the security council mandate, and we were not facing imminent threat. Coalition of the willing means we were outside the UN. So, no, no one can honestly read it differently.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Is OJ?
    Yes... obviously.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Really, no, you can't. Not honestly. Sure, someone will try to convince you of that, but it would be a disahonest effort. We did not have the security council mandate, and we were not facing imminent threat. Coalition of the willing means we were outside the UN. So, no, no one can honestly read it differently.
    Like someone convinced you it was illegal...or you convinced yourself. There are interpretations to be made due to the widely varying resolutions that apply. That's why courts decide if someone has broken a law, not the average Joe, not the police, not Judge Dredd.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Absolutely!

    The only two options in this poll should have been "no" and "hell no"...
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Like someone convinced you it was illegal...or you convinced yourself. There are interpretations to be made due to the widely varying resolutions that apply. That's why courts decide if someone has broken a law, not the average Joe, not the police, not Judge Dredd.
    No, the text is relatively clear. The courts decide if we ahve evidence that you were going 150 mph in 65mph zone. Not rather going 150 mph in 65 mph is speeding. Here we have the document (the speed limit) and we have the our actions (the clocked speed). So we have the evidence and the law. As it won't go to court, we can, should, and have looked at both. You have suspend disbelief not to see it.

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