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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    It's about the legal process, is it not? An example of guilt vs innocence? The whole world thought her just as guilty as OJ, but she was proven innocent in court. What's the difference between my point and Sangha's?
    according to my computer this is the topic:
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    only observing your avoiding the question posed, by insisting the question was off topic, while you simultaneously post off topic
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    according to my computer this is the topic:
    only observing your avoiding the question posed, by insisting the question was off topic, while you simultaneously post off topic
    We're talking about the legality of it, and Sangha has been using the OJ tactic, and abortion, to argue Iraq invasion legality. Track it back to who is actually dragging this of topic.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Sure I do....take it to a court of law. You can also read the UN resolutions that leave enough ambiguity to be interpreted to make it legal. It would take a court, not some nay-sayers, to determine what is actually illegal, under the UN resolutions and what is legal.
    Not all things can go to court. If the US had the power of Iraq, we'd have UN troops here right now. We did essentially the same thing Iraq did in invading Kuwait. We created a pretext, called them a threat and invaded without the UN.

    You don't need a court to know that was wrong, and you can read the signed documents to know we broke our agreement. You don't need anything else.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    according to my computer this is the topic:
    only observing your avoiding the question posed, by insisting the question was off topic, while you simultaneously post off topic
    "Was the War in Iraq worth it?"

    Lessee' now. We killed or damaged over a million sand 'gars. Sent another 4 million into Syria as refugees. Wiped out women's rights and increased persecution of Christians. We lied, we renditioned, we tortured, we weaseled, we bombed the civilian infrastructure, we bribed, we did not bomb the pipelines, we did not bomb the oil wells, and to close, we expect the Iraqis to kiss our ass for having done them a favor. It all sounds very Republican to me and that be a hotbed of Christian evangelism, eh? Now we get paid to fix everything we broke. Alfred E. Neuman say "what could possibly go wrong?" We did this because they did not have WMDs, did not get yellowcake in Niger, never heard of "Curveball," did not support al Queda, did not use "dollars" for OIL, mostly because Baghdad was considered a cosmopolitan city. Bomb the hell outa them suckers, we're taking Saddam out! Only a trillion dollars and counting. How could anyone ask "was it worth it?' Speaks for itself.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not all things can go to court. If the US had the power of Iraq, we'd have UN troops here right now. We did essentially the same thing Iraq did in invading Kuwait. We created a pretext, called them a threat and invaded without the UN.

    You don't need a court to know that was wrong, and you can read the signed documents to know we broke our agreement. You don't need anything else.
    No we don't need a court to know something is wrong, and you can also read the resolutions that imply it was legal. Hell, it being legal still wouldn't make it "right".
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    What's not difficult to figure out is that someone can appear guilty and not be. That's why we have courts and a rule of law.
    What's not difficult for the rest of us to figure out that crimes occur even if they don't result in a conviction.



    How about Casey Anthony? Is she guilty?
    Don't know. Is OJ?



    I've never ignored the definition of any of those, despite the fact that we are not discussing aborting Iraq.
    I understand why you want to ignore your position that the courts are wrong when it comes to defining the word person seeing as how you were arguing in this thread that what the court decides is "proof". Too bad (for you) that some of us are remember the hypocritical and dishonest arguments you made. You want to argue (in this thread) that the courts determine proof even though you have previously argued that the courts don't prove the truth
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    It's about the legal process, is it not? An example of guilt vs innocence? The whole world thought her just as guilty as OJ, but she was proven innocent in court. What's the difference between my point and Sangha's?
    No, it is not. It is about the truth, a subject you seem unfamiliar with. Maybe that's why you argue as if a courts decision determines the truth in this thread, but argue the opposite in other threads.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    We're talking about the legality of it, and Sangha has been using the OJ tactic, and abortion, to argue Iraq invasion legality. Track it back to who is actually dragging this of topic.
    No, *YOU* are arguing about the legality of it because the truth is not on your side.

    I brought up OJ and abortion to prove that even you don't believe the argument that you're using in this thread.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    "Was the War in Iraq worth it?"

    Lessee' now. We killed or damaged over a million sand 'gars. Sent another 4 million into Syria as refugees. Wiped out women's rights and increased persecution of Christians. We lied, we renditioned, we tortured, we weaseled, we bombed the civilian infrastructure, we bribed, we did not bomb the pipelines, we did not bomb the oil wells, and to close, we expect the Iraqis to kiss our ass for having done them a favor. It all sounds very Republican to me and that be a hotbed of Christian evangelism, eh? Now we get paid to fix everything we broke. Alfred E. Neuman say "what could possibly go wrong?" We did this because they did not have WMDs, did not get yellowcake in Niger, never heard of "Curveball," did not support al Queda, did not use "dollars" for OIL, mostly because Baghdad was considered a cosmopolitan city. Bomb the hell outa them suckers, we're taking Saddam out! Only a trillion dollars and counting. How could anyone ask "was it worth it?' Speaks for itself.
    You are very misinformed and mislead sir. Thats all I can say about your post riddled with inaccurate claims and abbreviated racial slurs. I don't look to debate with you nor do I care to. I'm just pointing out your ignorance of facts.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    What's not difficult for the rest of us to figure out that crimes occur even if they don't result in a conviction.
    Then why care if the occasional innocent man dies in the electric chair, right?

    Don't know. Is OJ?
    Legally, yep.

    I understand why you want to ignore your position that the courts are wrong when it comes to defining the word person seeing as how you were arguing in this thread that what the court decides is "proof". Too bad (for you) that some of us are remember the hypocritical and dishonest arguments you made. You want to argue (in this thread) that the courts determine proof even though you have previously argued that the courts don't prove the truth
    You're getting me mixed up with someone else. I've never argued the definition of person. All I've argued is that it doesn't matter.
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