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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Why should we have worried about what Saddam did to his own people in his country? Didn't affect us one bit.
    Do you believe that America should always stay on the sidelines of a genocide?
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Got rid of Saddam. We don't have to worry about him invading his neighbors every few years.
    I don't know about you but Saddam Hussein invading countries I don't know anybody in wasn't really that high on my list of worries. Matter of fact, I wasn't worried about it at all.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Cons
    Thousands of dead American soldiers
    Hundreds of thousands (million, maybe?) dead innocent Iraqi men, women, and children
    Billions of dollars lost
    Loss of huge amount of international goodwill that America had built
    Galvanized anti-American sentiment in the Middle East and increased support for Al Qaeda
    Power windfall for Iran

    Neutral
    No weapons of mass destruction in Iraq
    No connection between Iraq and Al Qaeda

    Pros
    We got Saddam
    Oil companies and defense contractors made out like bandits

    Yeah... a whole lot of money wasted, lives lost, political turmoil, and a less secure America... so a few rich @$$holes could get richer. No #$%^ing way that the war in Iraq was beneficial for this country. It was criminal in the first place, and gained no one (who isn't evil) anything.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Why should we have worried about what Saddam did to his own people in his country? Didn't affect us one bit.
    Should we have worried about what Hitler did to his own people?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I don't know about you but Saddam Hussein invading countries I don't know anybody in wasn't really that high on my list of worries. Matter of fact, I wasn't worried about it at all.
    What about when it got blown so far out of proportion that we hade a major war to fight and a half-million American soldiers died fighting it? Would that effect you?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're still wrong. 1) we never crossed troops into North Vietnam. 2) We were invited to deploy troops to South Vietnam, by the South Vietnamese government.
    What were those B-52s doing then? And you did it again... you ignored another aspect of my point. Is this what you do? Cherry pick semantical arguments and not ever actually address the purpose of the question? I feel like I am dealing with a kid, or worse, my riduclous ex wife.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I don't know about you but Saddam Hussein invading countries I don't know anybody in wasn't really that high on my list of worries. Matter of fact, I wasn't worried about it at all.
    Saddam taking control of 20% of the worlds oil reserves would have been a crippling blow to America's economy, and would have crippled America's ability to defend itself. Saddam invaded Kuwait because they refused to slow oil production and drive the price of oil up. Saddam needed high oil prices to pay of it's war debt. (Iran-Iraq war). Whether or not you know any Kuwaitis has nothing to do with the very real impact to your life that Saddam's successful acquisition of Kuwait would have caused. Never mind the idea that unprovoked aggression against another sovereign nation is generally considered taboo in the civilized world.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    What were those B-52s doing then? And you did it again... you ignored another aspect of my point. Is this what you do? Cherry pick semantical arguments and not ever actually address the purpose of the question? I feel like I am dealing with a kid, or worse, my riduclous ex wife.

    Oh... and the slave does not "invite" the master anywere.
    The bombing in Cambodia wasn't an invasion, it was a disruption of North Vietnamese supply lines. Also, he's right, we were invited into South Vietnam by the South Vietnamese (and the French). Similar points about Korea, btw, minus the French part.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Do you believe that America should always stay on the sidelines of a genocide?
    Not at all... but we certainly pick and choose are battles. We did nothing for Rwanda or Cambodia or Sierra Leone. We did in Europe because it was Europe and we did it in Kuwait and the ME because it was about oil. As soon as a battle started in Mogadishu we turned tail and ran.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    The bombing in Cambodia wasn't an invasion, it was a disruption of North Vietnamese supply lines. Also, he's right, we were invited into South Vietnam by the South Vietnamese (and the French). Similar points about Korea, btw, minus the French part.
    Invited? The South was our puppet. Like I said... the slave or puppet doesn't "invite" the Master of Puppets anywhere. Que Lars and Metallica! DUN DUN DUN!

    And we are getting off the point here. I don't care about it being an invasion. That is not the point. Don't let him fool you. My point was that would another nation be justified in attacking us and kicking us out of any country that we were in with our military? Would Russia or China be justified as we think that we were in going to Iraq and attacking us in order to kick us out as we did to Iraq when they were in Kuwait. THAT is the point and not this apstd filled semantical tangent where he just won't answer the ****ing question.
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